The damage recently done

[Jeff Lee]

Alex, what Holley are you trying to get approved for the 289 over the last ten years? Other than the 306 HP Shelby, I've never seen a Holley equipped 289.

Since your up on Fords, what factory (non Boss) 351C came with an aluminum intake manifold? Besides the Pantera.
If only the 351C HO came with a Holley, why are they on the other 351C's, Boss included?
Why is is that 390 Ford 4bbl's like Mustang came with a 600 Holley and now run the 735 Holly from the CJ?
I'm not even going to the Shelby issues.

And yes, the old Rambler 327 had a Holley 4bbl. Don't know the size. Engine discontinued in 1965.

[jimi]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Don't need no stinkin' paint.

billy i have a group 19 "1969" amx sitting at my shop right now it has everything but the three barrel carb.

[Dan Bennett]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

...And yes, the old Rambler 327 had a Holley 4bbl. Don't know the size. Engine discontinued in 1965.

Back in my wrench twisting days, I used to work on an early to mid sixties Rambler here in town. It had a Rambler engine (Typhoon?) which I'm pretty sure was a 327 and was equipped with a noticeably low performance Holley. I can't remember the body but I don't think they were using Ambassador yet. It was a full size four door, pretty luxurious at the time, air, nice interior, etc. I think the Rebel came later also.

On the larger issue, it seems that many people have lost track of the fact that drag racing used to be about engineering. Better parts ran better, and better racers ran even better than that. I feel for all the AMC racers as I owned a really nice 68 AMX 343 Go Package car in 1969. I had to retire from racing for a year or so until I bought a 70 Duster 340 and I could show my face again. Sorry, but it was just better engineering.

Headers really helped the AMX but only to the point where I might not be embarrased by a 327/300 Impala. The Super Stock AMX was a very good car, as were the Hurst Ramblers and the Hornet 360s. So, as much as I like those cars (one of the last things on my list is to build a Pro Street Pacer) I still can't agree with all the superceded parts. That goes for ALL those pulling these stunts, whether they race Mopar, Fords, Chevies, or AMC.

No one at Glendora still remembers what we're supposed to be doing.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Joe Abbazia

For the west coasters that dont know Billy Nees ,trust me you dont want him building a car in your class!! He may be old and ugly but he can get it done!! Hey Billy I have amx paint is rough just the way you like them!!

I agree Joe, which is why I gave him kudos for the great (against the norm) cars he's raced over the years. Actually, I wish he was here in my neck of the woods, because his knowledge of engines for the slower rollers could be helpful in getting my car to run quick enough against the index, to make a run at Indy (with todays warped minded qualifying and class win structure), seem like a worthy investment. Used to be that you could win your class, by just beating your class opponent (or the index by the same .5 that would give you a national record), and you'd be in the final field at Indy. Now you need to win a runoff against other single class racers, and you best be able to qualify in the top 128, or you wasted your time/money/effort to even show up there.

At least I know that if I had Billy's knowledge to help with my cars prep, I wouldn't lose because my car wasn't quick enough, I'd probably have to detune it so the ahfs wouldn't punish my hp factor to make me uncompetitive again...I'd rather deal with that though...lol.

[gmonde]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And what? When you decide to build an AMC you didn't know that? Now they expect "welfare" in the way of new parts? Cam cores don't know what lobe lift is ground on them. AFBs (Edelbrock) and Autolite carbs aren't that hard to find and the newly approved intake is probably rarer than an original.
I'm still waiting for a Super Duty 301 Pontiac block!

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[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Come to Div. 1.Maybe Eric M. will loan me the gremlin.Katie Sepanic and Jeannie Linke are here too waiting.I don't think you'll like the results.

Lighten up. It was a joke since I admitted I was beaten by a girl in the post.

[Jason]

Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?

[Mike Meier]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Come to Div. 1.Maybe Eric M. will loan me the gremlin.Katie Sepanic and Jeannie Linke are here too waiting.I don't think you'll like the results.

Or you can upgrade yourself to my AMC. If you can't beat it......might as well buy it. LOL

I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street

Originally Posted by Jason

Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street

Hey Tood,what street?