GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show - Page 37

Ed Wright · 12-14-2012, 01:05 PM

Got it Bruce.
Thanks

Byron Worner · 12-14-2012, 06:54 PM

Ford was first followed by Chrysler. They both packed the horsepower on most of the combinations. GM is following their lead. They are no more bogus than the combinations by Ford and Chrysler!

Greg Hill · 12-15-2012, 07:48 AM

Are none of you guys with new cars willing to write letters to NHRA or the manufacturers? Makes me think you like beating up on the old cars. You do realize you have unfair advantages don't you.

GUMP · 12-15-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Are none of you guys with new cars willing to write letters to NHRA or the manufacturers? Makes me think you like beating up on the old cars. You do realize you have unfair advantages don't you.

You honestly dont think that you have held an unfair advantage over other older combinations with your LT1?

Greg Hill · 12-15-2012, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

You honestly dont think that you have held an unfair advantage over other older combinations with your LT1?

What are you talking about? Our motors are so underrated that there is no one but me running my combination and only one other person running Andrew's motor. When I first started with my motor 20 years ago it was a 11.40 car in F/SA. The 400 Pontiacs , the 390 Fords and the 340 Chryslers are easily as good as our motors. Before you open your mouth you should have at least a clue what you are talking about.

RJ Sledge · 12-15-2012, 10:05 AM

Greg, I believe what Gump is referring to is the abnormal amount of HP that were taken off your Combo's. E/S is a 10 lb Class correct? That would be 350 lbs you get to take out. Have there been any other Combo's that had that much HP taken off?

You also mentioned that the "390 Fords" were easily as good, but a while back "they couldn't out run a 327 Camaro in 1967". So which is it??
Confused in Texas....lol

RJ

Merry Christmas Buddy

Go Irish!!
Sorry Chad

Greg Hill · 12-15-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by R J Sledge

Greg, I believe what Gump is referring to is the abnormal amount of HP that were taken off your Combo's. E/S is a 10 lb Class correct? That would be 350 lbs you get to take out. Have there been any other Combo's that had that much HP taken off?

You also mentioned that the "390 Fords" were easily as good, but a while back "they couldn't out run a 327 Camaro in 1967". So which is it??
Confused in Texas....lol

RJ

Merry Christmas
Go Irish!!
Sorry Chad

RJ, my motor which is the 71-72 combination was rated at 330 in 71 and 255 in 72 and is now 315. Andrew's motor which is the 70 combination was factory rated at 360 and is now rated at 325. These two combinations are by far the highest rated old small block Chevys that anyone runs. My comments about the 390 pertained to 1967 and not today. We feel like we have good combinations but Andrew and I both have been out run heads up in the past year by a Pontiac and a Chrysler.

Merry Christmas to you and GO IRISH!!!!!

Oh, by the way, I can't believe a man of your advanced age is actually building a new car.

Chad Rhodes · 12-15-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

You honestly dont think that you have held an unfair advantage over other older combinations with your LT1?

At least it came in a car with a VIN# on it.

Andrew Hill · 12-15-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

You honestly dont think that you have held an unfair advantage over other older combinations with your LT1?

Now who sounds like a broken record. Do you actually think our motors are better than the 400 Pontiacs or 340 Chryslers? I absolutely do not think I have an unfair advantage.

Alan Roehrich · 12-15-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

You honestly dont think that you have held an unfair advantage over other older combinations with your LT1?

You honestly think any advantage Greg holds over combinations he competes directly with even remotely compares to the advantage the LSx 427/425 COPO holds over the old 69 427/425 L-72 Kevin and I run?

Those COPO 427/425 engines hold at least 100HP advantage over the 427/425 L-72 that has 25-30 years of guys like the Sorenson brothers and McGlasson/DeArmond developing them.

Show me where Greg holds anything remotely close to that.

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RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 502 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show Greg, I believe what Gump is referring to is the abnormal amount of HP that were taken off your Combo's. E/S is a 10 lb Class correct? That would be 350 lbs you get to take out. Have there been any other Combo's that had that much HP taken off? You also mentioned that the "390 Fords" were easily as good, but a while back "they couldn't out run a 327 Camaro in 1967". So which is it?? Confused in Texas....lol RJ Merry Christmas Buddy Go Irish!! Sorry Chad