super stock racing? - Page 2

Ed Wright · 04-06-2013, 07:17 PM

Since they dumbed it down to bracket racing level, the only difference is you can't dial slower than your index.

And if you can't run a second under your index you probably want to avoid heads-up pairings.

If they learn you carry .5, guys will probably be working the ladder in an attempt to get you first round. LOL

Jeff Lee · 04-06-2013, 11:05 PM

He's just trying to understand the concept, not look for ways to hold .500. Yes, if you can run faster than your index (and most do) you will most likely dialing that #, just as you would in a bracket race. I was just trying to show the importance of running (at least) your index (for the protection of your dial in) and that you should strive to go as far under your index as your finances and talent allow (for those heads-up races).
And if not for L79 here, maybe some other new blood read this and would like to jump right in!

hookdaddy · 04-06-2013, 11:17 PM

Well nobody really bracket races any more (except maybe certain Nostalgia SS groups.) When bracket racing began it was handicaped in .5 sec "brackets" 11.00, 11.50, 12.00 etc. What we have now it "dial your own" handicap racing. Stock & SS are much more challenging because the competition isn't restricted to the track. There's much more refined rules, the challenge of working within a structured system and the ever present knowledge that if you spend thousands of $$$ looking for a few horsepower and find it the sanctioning body will give you a few more on Monday for FREE!! It's not just throw a bunch of parts at it - get out the shoe polish and let's race. But thanks for asking.

treessavoy · 04-07-2013, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hookdaddy

Well nobody really bracket races any more (except maybe certain Nostalgia SS groups.) When bracket racing began it was handicaped in .5 sec "brackets" 11.00, 11.50, 12.00 etc. What we have now it "dial your own" handicap racing. Stock & SS are much more challenging because the competition isn't restricted to the track. There's much more refined rules, the challenge of working within a structured system and the ever present knowledge that if you spend thousands of $$$ looking for a few horsepower and find it the sanctioning body will give you a few more on Monday for FREE!! It's not just throw a bunch of parts at it - get out the shoe polish and let's race. But thanks for asking.

First, if you have shoe polish on your window it's bracket racing, if you "dial your own" you're bracket racing whether doing so on a Sat. night at the track or within the confines of Stock or SS racing.

Second, NSS is not bracket racing, it is Index racing. Indexes are set and you tune your car to the index you want to run.

JimR

Jeff Lee · 04-07-2013, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

First, if you have shoe polish on your window it's bracket racing, if you "dial your own" you're bracket racing whether doing so on a Sat. night at the track or within the confines of Stock or SS racing.

Second, NSS is not bracket racing, it is Index racing. Indexes are set and you tune your car to the index you want to run.

JimR

But when I open up the rulebook under bracket racing, it doesn't list a bunch of stuff I CAN NOT DO.
Those that want to marginalize S/SS racing typically have this "it's just a bracket race" mentality. But to be polite, I'll refain for identifying why they have this attitude...

442OLDS · 04-07-2013, 07:59 AM

Super Stock /Stock Racing also is different from Bracket Racing because there is a qualified field with a ladder and no buybacks or multiple entries.Also,if you want to get a good reaction time,you have to "work" on your car.You do not have the luxury of deep staging.

tj310 · 04-07-2013, 10:10 AM

It's not just a bracket race !!! It's a bracket race with stock looking carburetors

--- Trevor

442OLDS · 04-07-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tj310

It's not just a bracket race !!! It's a bracket race with stock looking carburetors

--- Trevor

Las Vegas Stock Eliminator just had Michael Brand defeating Mike Iacono in Fletcher's car ....HEADS UP.

Now he races Shipp in Round 4....HEADS UP.

NO show polish there.It does happen,and more than some people think.

Ed Wright · 04-07-2013, 06:32 PM

That is not as unusual as some want to tell you. You could always crawl off into a class nobody else runs if you don't want to work on your stuff.

Mike Carr · 04-07-2013, 07:30 PM

http://www.forum.competitionplus.com...ead.php?t=7224

04-06-2013, 07:17 PM	#11
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: super stock racing? Since they dumbed it down to bracket racing level, the only difference is you can't dial slower than your index. And if you can't run a second under your index you probably want to avoid heads-up pairings. If they learn you carry .5, guys will probably be working the ladder in an attempt to get you first round. LOL __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

04-06-2013, 11:05 PM	#12
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: super stock racing? He's just trying to understand the concept, not look for ways to hold .500. Yes, if you can run faster than your index (and most do) you will most likely dialing that #, just as you would in a bracket race. I was just trying to show the importance of running (at least) your index (for the protection of your dial in) and that you should strive to go as far under your index as your finances and talent allow (for those heads-up races). And if not for L79 here, maybe some other new blood read this and would like to jump right in! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-06-2013, 11:17 PM	#13
hookdaddy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ocala Florida Posts: 254 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: super stock racing? Well nobody really bracket races any more (except maybe certain Nostalgia SS groups.) When bracket racing began it was handicaped in .5 sec "brackets" 11.00, 11.50, 12.00 etc. What we have now it "dial your own" handicap racing. Stock & SS are much more challenging because the competition isn't restricted to the track. There's much more refined rules, the challenge of working within a structured system and the ever present knowledge that if you spend thousands of $$$ looking for a few horsepower and find it the sanctioning body will give you a few more on Monday for FREE!! It's not just throw a bunch of parts at it - get out the shoe polish and let's race. But thanks for asking. __________________ Don Scholl d.scholl@comcast.net 145Y Stock - 145H Super Comp

04-07-2013, 07:59 AM	#16
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: super stock racing? Super Stock /Stock Racing also is different from Bracket Racing because there is a qualified field with a ladder and no buybacks or multiple entries.Also,if you want to get a good reaction time,you have to "work" on your car.You do not have the luxury of deep staging.

04-07-2013, 10:10 AM	#17
tj310 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dresden On. Canada Posts: 460 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: super stock racing? It's not just a bracket race !!! It's a bracket race with stock looking carburetors --- Trevor

04-07-2013, 06:32 PM	#19
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: super stock racing? That is not as unusual as some want to tell you. You could always crawl off into a class nobody else runs if you don't want to work on your stuff. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

04-07-2013, 07:30 PM	#20
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: super stock racing? http://www.forum.competitionplus.com...ead.php?t=7224 __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912