metric 200 with no 2nd?

rod butcher · 08-15-2013, 06:40 AM

I have a metric 200 that works fine when driving in the pits and even the burnout but when shifted into second gear after the launch it freewheels and never goes into gear. Third gear is fine. Any ideas?

Jim Kaekel · 08-15-2013, 08:03 AM

What's the history of the trans? Was it just rebuilt and did it originally work fine? The intermediate band is supposed to apply in second. It may be burned up or this is an issue with the band pin or servo.

Mike Taylor 3601 · 08-15-2013, 08:22 AM

Did'nt say anything about it or may not have noticed,but does hold back like brakes are dragging in low or second,I put gear in Randall Campbell's truck last year after broke rear,went pull out and felt like brakes were dragging in low and second,high felt OK,pulled down trans and sprag was blowed up,he's broke rear twice and busted sprag both times.
Probaly not same problem as yours but,thought could help.
Mike Taylor 3601

Thomas Arnett · 08-15-2013, 08:31 AM

What kind of car it is in ? What kind of filter you have on it ? How big a wheel stand does the car do ? Auto 1/2 or manual shift?

Jim Whitehead · 08-15-2013, 08:46 AM

Rod you have pm

rod butcher · 08-15-2013, 03:44 PM

Thomas
Car is 3 gen Camaro that is in H/SA. Has a stock pan and filter and manual shift. Has Turbo Action valve body. Goes 2 feet in the air. Band is good, pin not broken and servo air checks fine.

Jody Lang · 08-15-2013, 05:42 PM

Try adding more fluid. At least a quart. Run a hose from vent up dipstick tube maybe with a loop in it and zip tie to the tube. This will stop fluid from getting on track. It might spit because you need it to be overfull to work with stock pan. The pick up for fluid is towards the front you could be picking up some air.

The best fix is a Turbo Action pan that relocates filter towards the rear of pan.

Hopefully you havn't damaged anything if this is what it is. There's a good chance that its ok.

Thomas Arnett · 08-17-2013, 08:31 AM

you got a fluid problem ! It's work fine driving around and burn out so the tran's is probability ok . Check and see if you have the right dipstick & tube. Fluid is running away from filter on take off add fluid or put deeper pan & move filter to rear of pan.

MEXJOE · 08-18-2013, 09:15 PM

If you had the valve body off you my have inverted the gasket.
Don't ask how I know this ..........

08-15-2013, 06:40 AM	#1
rod butcher Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 252 Likes: 302 Liked 132 Times in 27 Posts	metric 200 with no 2nd? I have a metric 200 that works fine when driving in the pits and even the burnout but when shifted into second gear after the launch it freewheels and never goes into gear. Third gear is fine. Any ideas?

08-15-2013, 08:03 AM	#2
Jim Kaekel VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,227 Likes: 133 Liked 530 Times in 108 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? What's the history of the trans? Was it just rebuilt and did it originally work fine? The intermediate band is supposed to apply in second. It may be burned up or this is an issue with the band pin or servo. __________________ Jim Kaekel 3836 STK

08-15-2013, 08:22 AM	#3
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,371 Likes: 352 Liked 304 Times in 102 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? Did'nt say anything about it or may not have noticed,but does hold back like brakes are dragging in low or second,I put gear in Randall Campbell's truck last year after broke rear,went pull out and felt like brakes were dragging in low and second,high felt OK,pulled down trans and sprag was blowed up,he's broke rear twice and busted sprag both times. Probaly not same problem as yours but,thought could help. Mike Taylor 3601

08-15-2013, 08:31 AM	#4
Thomas Arnett Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? What kind of car it is in ? What kind of filter you have on it ? How big a wheel stand does the car do ? Auto 1/2 or manual shift?

08-15-2013, 08:46 AM	#5
Jim Whitehead Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA. Posts: 287 Likes: 153 Liked 150 Times in 41 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? Rod you have pm

08-15-2013, 03:44 PM	#6
rod butcher Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 252 Likes: 302 Liked 132 Times in 27 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? Thomas Car is 3 gen Camaro that is in H/SA. Has a stock pan and filter and manual shift. Has Turbo Action valve body. Goes 2 feet in the air. Band is good, pin not broken and servo air checks fine.

08-15-2013, 05:42 PM	#7
Jody Lang Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 306 Likes: 28 Liked 89 Times in 28 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? Try adding more fluid. At least a quart. Run a hose from vent up dipstick tube maybe with a loop in it and zip tie to the tube. This will stop fluid from getting on track. It might spit because you need it to be overfull to work with stock pan. The pick up for fluid is towards the front you could be picking up some air. The best fix is a Turbo Action pan that relocates filter towards the rear of pan. Hopefully you havn't damaged anything if this is what it is. There's a good chance that its ok.

08-17-2013, 08:31 AM	#8
Thomas Arnett Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? you got a fluid problem ! It's work fine driving around and burn out so the tran's is probability ok . Check and see if you have the right dipstick & tube. Fluid is running away from filter on take off add fluid or put deeper pan & move filter to rear of pan.

08-18-2013, 09:15 PM	#9
MEXJOE Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: nhranumbers.com Posts: 875 Likes: 137 Liked 165 Times in 51 Posts	Re: metric 200 with no 2nd? If you had the valve body off you my have inverted the gasket. Don't ask how I know this ..........