Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ???

Tom Briggs7100 · 09-09-2007, 11:54 AM

Sun, 9 Sep 2007, 01:26 AM

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - Results of final, round 6 eliminations in Super Stock at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, Pacific Division, event at Auto Club Famoso Raceway:

5 Tony DeFrank 4 Jimmy DeFrank
E6 -0.500 16.859 66.50 ****WINNER**** 1.541 19.701 69.68
GT/CA Dial: 9.91 (+/-): 6.949 SS/BS Dial: 8.95 (+/-): 10.751
Prior rounds:
E5 0.046 9.919 0.009 (S Wann ) 0.009 8.968 0.018
E4 (F Grossi ) 0.007 9.925 0.145 (B Blakeney ) 0.012 9.067 0.117
E3 (F Moreno ) 0.019 9.821 0.031 (J Larkin ) 0.012 9.096 0.146
E2 (S Cour ) 0.016 9.825 0.015 (T Armanino ) 0.019 9.111 0.111
E1 (B Chaffin ) 0.016 9.809 -0.031 (K Smith ) 0.025 9.168 0.168
Qualified: #14 9.774 -0.926 #6 8.995 -1.055

10:20 p.m. Are there serious consequences after this final? This might have been decided before the pair came to the line. The winner is Jimmy DeFrank.

Last edited by Tom Briggs7100; 09-09-2007 at 02:13 PM.

larry dowty · 09-09-2007, 03:52 PM

what is it that you think they did wrong???

John Kelley · 09-09-2007, 05:24 PM

It was a pre decided race with Tony taking a -.500 REDLIGHT and both just loafing down the track.
But Graham is just after the PRO DIVERS in the gimmick "countdown"...........:-)

JRyan · 09-09-2007, 06:47 PM

I think you're right John. For anyone who's been concious for the last year or so, Graham and his minions could give less than a ***** about Sportsman racing with regard to anything else, so why should they care about this? Let's see?? Jimmy is # 1 in Points, and Tony doesn't have a shot. Senior owns the cars, so it's his call. Being friends with Danny had nothing to do with it. I'm sure all fifty spectators that were left already knew the outcome before they ran.

Jerry

Michael Beard · 09-09-2007, 09:23 PM

Well, congratulations guys. There ya go... "It's just a business decision", right?

JRyan · 09-09-2007, 10:09 PM

Michael,

If you're Jim DeFrank, YEP! You're not, and I'm not, so I guess we have no business in the decision. If "business decisions" didn't enter into it, why does NHRA mandate that PRO team cars RACE? Isn't that a BUSINESS DECISION on their part? You have to live with Michael Beard, but I'm sure Jim DeFrank has no problems living with Jim DeFrank on the decision he made. Like it or not, that's the way it is, PERIOD!!!

Jerry

larry dowty · 09-09-2007, 10:32 PM

like i said what did they do wrong

Another Friendly Racer · 09-09-2007, 10:38 PM

They did nothing wrong, congrats to the defrank crew on a win and runner-up! Some people are so jealous they will whine about anything possible, its pretty ridiculous.

Rod Greene · 09-09-2007, 11:45 PM

They didn't even do a burnout it was disgusting to watch. At least make it look like a race.

Michael Beard · 09-10-2007, 09:52 AM

If the championship comes down to the difference of that one round, then the second place guy was cheated. One guy has to *earn* all of his round wins, and another has some given to him.

Is it okay because it was just one round, or would it be okay if we put together a team of ten cars and work to qualify so that we could always advance certain team members into the late rounds and buy a championship?

I'm stunned that there is so little moral integrity in our sport.

Y'all are welcome to your opinions. I for one will always know that everything I've won I will have earned. I needed to win one round to win the Summit Super Series at Pageland Dragway this weekend. I lost a close race to a good competitor. I'm happier knowing that I did my best, instead of paying off my opponent to give me a redlight.

09-09-2007, 03:52 PM	#2
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? what is it that you think they did wrong???

09-09-2007, 05:24 PM	#3
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? It was a pre decided race with Tony taking a -.500 REDLIGHT and both just loafing down the track. But Graham is just after the PRO DIVERS in the gimmick "countdown"...........:-)

09-09-2007, 06:47 PM	#4
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? I think you're right John. For anyone who's been concious for the last year or so, Graham and his minions could give less than a ***** about Sportsman racing with regard to anything else, so why should they care about this? Let's see?? Jimmy is # 1 in Points, and Tony doesn't have a shot. Senior owns the cars, so it's his call. Being friends with Danny had nothing to do with it. I'm sure all fifty spectators that were left already knew the outcome before they ran. Jerry

09-09-2007, 09:23 PM	#5
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? Well, congratulations guys. There ya go... "It's just a business decision", right? __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

09-09-2007, 10:32 PM	#7
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? like i said what did they do wrong

09-09-2007, 11:54 AM	#1
Tom Briggs7100 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland,Oregon Posts: 38 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? Sun, 9 Sep 2007, 01:26 AM BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - Results of final, round 6 eliminations in Super Stock at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, Pacific Division, event at Auto Club Famoso Raceway: 5 Tony DeFrank 4 Jimmy DeFrank E6 -0.500 16.859 66.50 **WINNER** 1.541 19.701 69.68 GT/CA Dial: 9.91 (+/-): 6.949 SS/BS Dial: 8.95 (+/-): 10.751 Prior rounds: E5 0.046 9.919 0.009 (S Wann ) 0.009 8.968 0.018 E4 (F Grossi ) 0.007 9.925 0.145 (B Blakeney ) 0.012 9.067 0.117 E3 (F Moreno ) 0.019 9.821 0.031 (J Larkin ) 0.012 9.096 0.146 E2 (S Cour ) 0.016 9.825 0.015 (T Armanino ) 0.019 9.111 0.111 E1 (B Chaffin ) 0.016 9.809 -0.031 (K Smith ) 0.025 9.168 0.168 Qualified: #14 9.774 -0.926 #6 8.995 -1.055 10:20 p.m. Are there serious consequences after this final? This might have been decided before the pair came to the line. The winner is Jimmy DeFrank. Last edited by Tom Briggs7100; 09-09-2007 at 02:13 PM.

09-09-2007, 10:09 PM	#6
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? Michael, If you're Jim DeFrank, YEP! You're not, and I'm not, so I guess we have no business in the decision. If "business decisions" didn't enter into it, why does NHRA mandate that PRO team cars RACE? Isn't that a BUSINESS DECISION on their part? You have to live with Michael Beard, but I'm sure Jim DeFrank has no problems living with Jim DeFrank on the decision he made. Like it or not, that's the way it is, PERIOD!!! Jerry

09-09-2007, 10:38 PM	#8
Another Friendly Racer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 152 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? They did nothing wrong, congrats to the defrank crew on a win and runner-up! Some people are so jealous they will whine about anything possible, its pretty ridiculous.

09-09-2007, 11:45 PM	#9
Rod Greene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TN Posts: 530 Likes: 417 Liked 242 Times in 81 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? They didn't even do a burnout it was disgusting to watch. At least make it look like a race. __________________ Rod Greene Real men shift for them selves. Slowly working on TA Challenger for D,E/S and a 72 Challenger for SS/K, L as if I don't have enough other projects.

09-10-2007, 09:52 AM	#10
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ??? If the championship comes down to the difference of that one round, then the second place guy was cheated. One guy has to earn all of his round wins, and another has some given to him. Is it okay because it was just one round, or would it be okay if we put together a team of ten cars and work to qualify so that we could always advance certain team members into the late rounds and buy a championship? I'm stunned that there is so little moral integrity in our sport. Y'all are welcome to your opinions. I for one will always know that everything I've won I will have earned. I needed to win one round to win the Summit Super Series at Pageland Dragway this weekend. I lost a close race to a good competitor. I'm happier knowing that I did my best, instead of paying off my opponent to give me a redlight. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS