Piston to valve clearance

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Not that young Ed.
I also used modeling clay many moons ago, also used Plastigauge too!

I didn't use Plastigauge for long before Carroll reamed my tail out over that too. LOL
Getting to know that family is one of the best things that ever happened to me. Fine people.

[Jim Hanig]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I only do "valve drop" measurements to verify all cylinders have the same valve seat-to-valve pocket travel. I would never just do math to check my valve-to-piston clearance. I actually measure it in 2 degree increments 20 degrees from TDC. I have found the closest point being ten degrees from TDC to almost never does apply to my stuff. I measure it with the springs I'm going to run. I have an old Mr. Gasket on-car valve spring checker that I have modified to fit my Jessel rockers, to pull them down against the pistons. I use a long 1/2" drive break over instead of the torque wrench it was meant to use for checking valve springs. Checkingwith weak checking springs always show more room than it will have running.
I measure it with the cam two degrees further advanced than I expect to run it, and backed up two degrees further than I would expect to run it, on a new engine. After I settle in on where I'm going to be running the cam, the next time it's apart, if I have room, I close it up to the minimum. My pistons have a clean ring like the face of my Manley valves, and a round dark spot for the dimple in the center.

I quit using modeling clay about 1970, when Carrol Caudle told me "Ed, give that crap to a kid to play with, that is what it is meant for." LOL

If somebody tells me they bought an engine, and how much clearance should it have, I'm going to tell them way safe to keep them out of trouble.

dont you mean less than the race springs?

[Ed Wright]

You will have more clearance with race springs.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

You will have more clearance with race springs.

How much more?

[HandOverFist]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I only do "valve drop" measurements to verify all cylinders have the same valve seat-to-valve pocket travel. I would never just do math to check my valve-to-piston clearance. I actually measure it in 2 degree increments 20 degrees from TDC. I have found the closest point being ten degrees from TDC to almost never does apply to my stuff. I measure it with the springs I'm going to run. I have an old Mr. Gasket on-car valve spring checker that I have modified to fit my Jessel rockers, to pull them down against the pistons. I use a long 1/2" drive break over instead of the torque wrench it was meant to use for checking valve springs. Checkingwith weak checking springs always show more room than it will have running.
I measure it with the cam two degrees further advanced than I expect to run it, and backed up two degrees further than I would expect to run it, on a new engine. After I settle in on where I'm going to be running the cam, the next time it's apart, if I have room, I close it up to the minimum. My pistons have a clean ring like the face of my Manley valves, and a round dark spot for the dimple in the center.

I quit using modeling clay about 1970, when Carrol Caudle told me "Ed, give that crap to a kid to play with, that is what it is meant for." LOL

If somebody tells me they bought an engine, and how much clearance should it have, I'm going to tell them way safe to keep them out of trouble.

That's a little confusing Ed...you seem to be telling him two different versions regarding the springs used for checking. " Checkingwith weak checking springs always show more room than it will have running. "

[Ed Wright]

Thought that is what I said. Still can't type, I guess. More room with race springs. Sorry if I said it wrong.
How much? Depends on your parts. No way to answer that.