What's wrong with Stock?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Not "some". *I'm* the one that brought it up, and I specifically said first that I thought that 8-sec cars belonged in Super Stock, and I also said that if I continue to race my 15-sec Stocker against 150 mph cars I would choose to put a roll bar in the car. I haven't started any petition to NHRA or anything. Sheesh.

I guess you could go by bracket rules and not wear a helmet, firejacket or fire pants in a 15-sec Stocker, too, but I choose to wear them. I felt perfectly safe, too, right up until a car went sideways in front of me in my lane at 140+. I was just bringing up some self-preservation thoughts. To each their own.

When I sold my Gremlin to Eric Merryfield I asked him to have a rollbar installed in the car
as his daughter and son were going to drive it.He went the extra mile and had a cage and chassis connectors put in it. I would have done it if I kept the car. It's unnerving to have one of the new cars blow by you at around 60 mph. It's only a matter of time till one of them takes out a lower class stocker trying to make it close at the stripe.
It entails buying a jacket,belts etc. but hey how much is your life worth to you?

[jmantle]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

One thing you Stocker guys might want to consider is unintended consequences. A scenario that I could easily see happening is for NHRA to say "We have listened to our Stock class racers and per their request, we are creating a new separate eliminator for cars newer than 2008." What they are not going to mention is that a proportional amount of the payout and a good chunk of the contingiency money will be going with it. You don't really think that NHRA is going to add a new elimanator and just add the money accordingly? Also, dig out some of your older Natl Dragsters and look how contingiency money has been redistributed over the last few years, money has been added for the new cars at the expense of the older combinations. Don't be fooled by press releases about how the manufacturers are adding contingiency, it's all being feed into the new cars and dropped from the older cars. I race in SS and it doesn't seem to be as big of a deal for us but Stock needs to be careful about what they wish for, I think you guys are being set up.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Jim, I think what most stock racers would like to see is put the factory hot rods in SS, be it FX or whatever, and add the real stockers to the guide and let the AHFS work. I know Jeff Teuton managed to get Chrysler to add a few to the guide, I'd like to see NHRA pressure Ford and GM to do the same.

Jim Mantle
V/SA 6632

[Pedigo Perf]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

One thing you Stocker guys might want to consider is unintended consequences. A scenario that I could easily see happening is for NHRA to say "We have listened to our Stock class racers and per their request, we are creating a new separate eliminator for cars newer than 2008." What they are not going to mention is that a proportional amount of the payout and a good chunk of the contingiency money will be going with it. You don't really think that NHRA is going to add a new elimanator and just add the money accordingly? Also, dig out some of your older Natl Dragsters and look how contingiency money has been redistributed over the last few years, money has been added for the new cars at the expense of the older combinations. Don't be fooled by press releases about how the manufacturers are adding contingiency, it's all being feed into the new cars and dropped from the older cars. I race in SS and it doesn't seem to be as big of a deal for us but Stock needs to be careful about what they wish for, I think you guys are being set up.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Bill Lumbergh: Great.
Dom Portwood: So, uh, Milton has been let go?
Bob Slydell: Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally.
Bob Porter: We always like to avoid confrontation, whenever possible. Problem is solved from your end.

[ss wannabee]

FS Fan has a nice post and I'll have to re-read it...Not trying to beat you up on the details,
BUT I think the LAST carbureted Domestic production-line car MAY have been the 1990
Olds full-size Custom Cruiser wagon with the 307 engine...(and Quadrajet)....

Think the rest of the Big-3 had switched to TBI and Port-Fuel Injection by then...not sure
why Olds hung-on with the 4-bbl engine.....

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf

Bill Lumbergh: Great.
Dom Portwood: So, uh, Milton has been let go?
Bob Slydell: Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally.
Bob Porter: We always like to avoid confrontation, whenever possible. Problem is solved from your end.

one thing not mentioned here, he eventually burned the place to the ground!
lmao

[Bill Diehl]

That CJ stocker, with the same engine platform and 60 more cubes, almost 15 to 1, 650 roller, cnc modern heads with 150 more cfm, and twice the throttle bore opening only makes 100 more HP than mine?

I might as well leave my half finished Boss in the garage then.

Don't get me wrong, I like the new tech just as much as the next guy, but lets get real here. I would like to show the world how smart I am and qualify at the top of the pack too, but how is that going to happen if they don't take a "hit" like I would if I did?

carry on

[Bunkster]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

....i am sure glad roy WANTED to be part of the 60th Big Fiasco...

Too many don't recall, or aren't aware, of the stock final in 1986.

[Wayne W]

How about. New cars in Stock and older cars in Jr. Stock ??

Just a thought.

[rickseeman]

Originally Posted by Doug Blackley

You didn't buy that thru the showroom. You bought that as a part number from the parts department and that was the whole point you missed. There has never been any of these that have been available off the showroom floor.

BS. I saw several there, Baytown Dodge had 2. I got one of them.

The new cars are under factored and that's not right.

[Rose Racing]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

Too many don't recall, or aren't aware, of the stock final in 1986.

fill us in please