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Old 03-12-2017, 03:53 PM   #61
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As Jim Harrington once told me a winning driver very seldom is under power at the finish line.
This is true, but he didn't say you had to be sideways to do it. Harry would crack the throttle long before the finish line to get rid of much of what he was holding early, and then fine-tune it at the stripe. You don't have to hold any more than what you could possibly misjudge the weather/track conditions plus how far you could be behind on the tree. You want to introduce the least number of variables possible.

If your car is set up right, you can be aggressive and kill a bunch of ET without smoking the tires or getting sideways.
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:19 PM   #62
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Jim also crashed his 'Cuda for "excessive" braking.
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:23 PM   #63
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[QUOTE=Buick6;529369]Speaking as an outsider looking to get in the game, I have to say it is a shame when any drag race is won by "sandbagging" in order to cross the finish line hard on the brakes instead of at full throttle. Seems like that nonsense should be left to the bracket racers. How boring for the spectators (what spectators?). But as has been stated, the "top notch drivers" have figured this out and will continue to win that way because the rules have allowed this to happen. Can't blame them for finding a way that works. Perhaps the fix opens up a bigger can of worms for NHRA to attempt to police. Maybe the name should be changed to "Brake Racing" instead of "Drag Racing".[/QUOTE Buick 6, you might want to reconsider getting in the game. "top notch drivers" will leave you behind. Never heard of the Soros echo chamber.]
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:03 PM   #64
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Speaking as an outsider looking to get in the game, I have to say it is a shame when any drag race is won by "sandbagging" in order to cross the finish line hard on the brakes instead of at full throttle. Seems like that nonsense should be left to the bracket racers. How boring for the spectators (what spectators?). But as has been stated, the "top notch drivers" have figured this out and will continue to win that way because the rules have allowed this to happen. Can't blame them for finding a way that works. Perhaps the fix opens up a bigger can of worms for NHRA to attempt to police. Maybe the name should be changed to "Brake Racing" instead of "Drag Racing".
Buick 6, you might want to reconsider getting in the game. "top notch drivers" will leave you behind. Never heard of the Soros echo chamber.
Fixed your post for you, Tony.
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:15 PM   #65
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Geez, y'all are tuff on the newbies.

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Old 03-12-2017, 11:57 PM   #66
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Since safety is paramount, maybe one change to the rules regarding "excessive braking" that NHRA should consider is in the area of penalties. Instead of a DQ for "excessive braking" rules infractions, make it a suspension for some period of time during the current racing season or the next, depending on the time of year. Deterrents can be effective.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:13 AM   #67
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Jerry did nothing wrong. No knowledgeable driver is going to watch that video and say that car was out of control. It stayed straight, wheels were rolling, not locked up, he was in full control. I think that was a bad call. Not like Jerry is still trying to learn how to drive.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:05 PM   #68
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Jerry did nothing wrong. No knowledgeable driver is going to watch that video and say that car was out of control. It stayed straight, wheels were rolling, not locked up, he was in full control. I think that was a bad call. Not like Jerry is still trying to learn how to drive.
Completely agree.
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Old 03-14-2017, 03:27 PM   #69
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I have been racing super Stock for well over 30 years. I have never had a race my opponent has slammed on or locked up the brakes. I watch the qualifying times and know if the other racer is holding. I am not the caliber of driver that the world champs are but I have raced the best. Peter, Anthony, Rampy and several others that race clean and do not hammer the brakes at the stripe. My feeling is this type of heavy braking needs to be addressed by NHRA. It appears that Jerry was with in the written rule on his run unless he was warned prior not to continue with that practice.
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Old 03-14-2017, 03:37 PM   #70
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Yes, the rule is written in black and white.

The problem with the rule is that it is open for interpretation. If all else fails, the Race Director is the final decision.

The biggest flaw in this rule - It is NOT levied equally at every race. I have seen videos of cars sideways and no DQ,
Same with any sport. Strike zone, holding call or a charging foul, it's all in the eyes of the beholder.
Deal with it!
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