AH index's

Brian Oakes · 03-12-2019, 10:07 AM

Ok i have a lot of friends or had, with Hemi's, sorry but i worked on my combo to get HP off and THEY said no runs over 55 under, WELL i'am home and looking at my Nitro Stat's
book there were 22 cars quicker then 55 under, 14 of them were 65 under, and 6 of them were 85 under, ssssssoooooooo how in the hell does this work. can some one explain this to me.

jmcarter · 03-12-2019, 10:25 AM

Remember that they gave them back some on their index because they couldn’t even qualify at Indy. And yes, they can sometimes put together some good runs but putting a string of them together is another story

Editing my earlier post, the old 9.30 index was raised in two .15 increments with the latest .15 based on competitors request during the last review cycle.

Mike Pearson · 03-12-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

Remember that they gave them back .3 on their index because they couldn’t even qualify at Indy. And yes, they can sometimes put together some good runs but putting a string of them together is another story

I wish they would give me .3 back so I could qualify at Indy. LOL.

Actually most of the original super stock classes need some help on the indexes or HP ratings to make them more competitive

Brian Oakes · 03-12-2019, 11:17 AM

No ya,s are not understanding the RULES, they cannot give S@*^ back, you have to follow the rules and apply for the ruling, I HAD a SS/JA car could not even come close to that alum. head thing, so i changed combo that i have have a chance at winning with. BRACKET RACING it now.

Bucky Hess · 03-12-2019, 12:31 PM

I was one of the people asking for index back on hemi cars. not that it means squat to me. But I think that the fastest hemi car at indy was 97 I believe. when index s were hit with 3 tenths, the index was hit 15 the week before at mission in mineshaft then we got the 3 tenths added. so we actually got hit 45. I asked for 15 and nhra gave us 30 because they are clueless and had our index listed at 9.45 to 9.60, when everyone but nhra knows it is 9:30. I hope this helps Brian. I went through nhra hoops for this.

Ed Carpenter · 03-12-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I wish they would give me .3 back so I could qualify at Indy. LOL.

Actually most of the original super stock classes need some help on the indexes or HP ratings to make them more competitive

In my case I had to run Mike Cotton in his Cuda for SS/IA at the baby gateors last weekend. His car has a 383 combo at 300 HP. My car is a 327 combo at 295 HP. That just doesn't sound right to me. That's 56 cubic inches difference at only 50 lbs weight difference. Most SS cars are making at least 1.75 HP/ Cu In. That would equate to about 100 HP difference between the two engines.

Isn’t it great Mike......

James Perrone · 03-12-2019, 03:00 PM

Don’t worry Brian. Buy the time Indy arrives I would bet the index will get adjusted
Wolkwitz. Went 118. At Baby Gators 🐊
Sorry Bucky but it will happen
So stop hating Brian maybe it’s Trump He put a tariff on Canadian products
Just because you live in NC. You are still a border jumping sob.

Bucky Hess · 03-12-2019, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Don’t worry Brian. Buy the time Indy arrives I would bet the index will get adjusted
Wolkwitz. Went 118. At Baby Gators 🐊
Sorry Bucky but it will happen
So stop hating Brian maybe it’s Trump He put a tariff on Canadian products
Just because you live in NC. You are still a border jumping sob.

all for sure on index , all I ask for was .15 nhra didn't even know our index, But if any class at indy has 30 cars and the top one is not close to the middle of the field, Come on

GATOR · 03-12-2019, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Oakes

sorry but i worked on my combo to get HP off

do you look at yourself in the mirror and feel good about yourself? can't believe you admitted that.

the problem with stock and SS racing for $1000 Alex LMAO

Cotten · 03-12-2019, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I wish they would give me .3 back so I could qualify at Indy. LOL.

Actually most of the original super stock classes need some help on the indexes or HP ratings to make them more competitive

In my case I had to run Mike Cotton in his Cuda for SS/IA at the baby gateors last weekend. His car has a 383 combo at 300 HP. My car is a 327 combo at 295 HP. That just doesn't sound right to me. That's 56 cubic inches difference at only 50 lbs weight difference. Most SS cars are making at least 1.75 HP/ Cu In. That would equate to about 100 HP difference between the two engines.

Mike I usually let things slide but I have to respond to this one.

Yes my combo looks pretty good until you take it to Indy or look at Nitro Joes stats for ss/ja.
Maybe you should aim your complaints at the top car's in the class.

In addition you shared with me how much $ you have in your engine. I have more than that in the valve train of mine. I have spent 12 years testing, waisting money and time perfecting this combo.

For you to imply the reason your car can't run with mine is because I'm underfactored is not only insulting it's just dead wrong.

Mike

03-12-2019, 10:07 AM	#1
Brian Oakes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 570 Likes: 2 Liked 408 Times in 115 Posts	AH index's Ok i have a lot of friends or had, with Hemi's, sorry but i worked on my combo to get HP off and THEY said no runs over 55 under, WELL i'am home and looking at my Nitro Stat's book there were 22 cars quicker then 55 under, 14 of them were 65 under, and 6 of them were 85 under, ssssssoooooooo how in the hell does this work. can some one explain this to me.

03-12-2019, 10:25 AM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,273 Likes: 2,308 Liked 3,099 Times in 954 Posts	Re: AH index's Remember that they gave them back some on their index because they couldn’t even qualify at Indy. And yes, they can sometimes put together some good runs but putting a string of them together is another story Editing my earlier post, the old 9.30 index was raised in two .15 increments with the latest .15 based on competitors request during the last review cycle. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table Last edited by jmcarter; 03-12-2019 at 12:27 PM. Reason: Correction

03-12-2019, 11:17 AM	#4
Brian Oakes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 570 Likes: 2 Liked 408 Times in 115 Posts	Re: AH index's No ya,s are not understanding the RULES, they cannot give S@*^ back, you have to follow the rules and apply for the ruling, I HAD a SS/JA car could not even come close to that alum. head thing, so i changed combo that i have have a chance at winning with. BRACKET RACING it now.

03-12-2019, 12:31 PM	#5
Bucky Hess Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bunker Hill Posts: 182 Likes: 69 Liked 151 Times in 23 Posts	Re: AH index's I was one of the people asking for index back on hemi cars. not that it means squat to me. But I think that the fastest hemi car at indy was 97 I believe. when index s were hit with 3 tenths, the index was hit 15 the week before at mission in mineshaft then we got the 3 tenths added. so we actually got hit 45. I asked for 15 and nhra gave us 30 because they are clueless and had our index listed at 9.45 to 9.60, when everyone but nhra knows it is 9:30. I hope this helps Brian. I went through nhra hoops for this. __________________ Bucky Hess 1426 SS/AH

03-12-2019, 03:00 PM	#7
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,655 Likes: 3,318 Liked 1,777 Times in 416 Posts	Re: AH index's Don’t worry Brian. Buy the time Indy arrives I would bet the index will get adjusted Wolkwitz. Went 118. At Baby Gators 🐊 Sorry Bucky but it will happen So stop hating Brian maybe it’s Trump He put a tariff on Canadian products Just because you live in NC. You are still a border jumping sob. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK