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Old 03-02-2023, 09:09 AM   #21
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Default Re: 2023 AHFS system "cliff note version"

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What difference does it make? There is no motive to go fast anymore.
How about no AHFS or accountability for heads up runs, class eliminations and Indy?
Frank - that's exactly the problem , work to go fast just to get penalized , not because you have a soft combo , but because you put the time and effort (money) to go fast . This new AHFS is going to hurt class racing !!!
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Old 03-02-2023, 09:39 AM   #22
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How about no dial ins, first to the finish line wins?...

....and if you go more than .x under you get hp instantly.
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Old 03-02-2023, 09:45 AM   #23
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How about no dial ins, first to the finish line wins?...

....and if you go more than .x under you get hp instantly.
Kinda like the way it was done in the 1960s!
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Old 03-02-2023, 10:20 AM   #24
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Billy's concept is worth pursuing but those who possess power would not feel their supremacy when the underlings are happy. It's human nature which has not changed ever.

AHFS now in place makes some sense if the object is to get soft combos in line by creating pain for going fast or slowing down. I spent more effort developing a slow tune it is really frustrating.

What makes no sense is including Class Eliminations from 2nd round to the final. This is in conflict with the NHRA own rule.


"No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review"


Class Eliminations score no championship points or have any impact other than 1st round.

Class eliminations at LODRS and National Events from 2nd round to the finals should not be part of the data base these runs score no points or influence points.


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Old 03-02-2023, 11:12 AM   #25
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Frank - that's exactly the problem , work to go fast just to get penalized , not because you have a soft combo , but because you put the time and effort (money) to go fast . This new AHFS is going to hurt class racing !!!
Every time I read a post stating "I am fast because of hard work and time", I laugh. Did anyone think maybe this will help the class as there is no Need to Port and Mill the crap out of heads, use pistons with wrong ring package, light weight crank/rods with small journals, etc. It might just Bring it back to "Stock" racing. Before anyone posts they are going -1.00 under without doing what I stated please just stop.
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Old 03-02-2023, 12:11 PM   #26
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Old 03-02-2023, 12:27 PM   #27
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Default Re: 2023 AHFS system "cliff note version"

Didn't seem to be too much of a deterrent for quite a few in Belle Rose.
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Old 03-02-2023, 04:36 PM   #28
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In case you don't already do so, it might be wise to review the Classification Guide for your combo for hp adjustments that did not appear in the LATEST UPDATES section on nhraracer.com. I know.
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Old 03-02-2023, 07:44 PM   #29
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Yes,they have factored engines effective 01/01/23 without notifying us.
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Old 03-02-2023, 08:28 PM   #30
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They told me Stock was it difficult to understand , I guess they were correct.

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