Entry level class?

[1700camaro]

I posted my opinion on the order/ranking of what I thought was entry level classes. Stock was 3rd in my ranking.

What I didn't share is Stock is my favorite class & the main reason I come to CR. I have been lucky enough to make some passes/compete in a Super Stocker during a bracket race. Anyway, hopefully someday I will have the same/similar opportunity to race a Stocker.

[Signman]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Really? Considering you and I haven't had an in person conversation in at least 10 years,, so your claim is just that. I and I alone decided we would try super comp in 2017 and with the help of my friends Scotty Albrecht and Shawn Fricke, we've done very well!

LOL! We met eyes several times but you would not acknowledge. When it happened my first thought was "he said he never would do this" but here he is??? Recently I found out the "truth" which you of course deny and deflect. Have you ever had an original idea?

Scott and Shawn are two great guys and know what their doing. Most of us saw you buy a former SS Bird after watching Shawn do well with his for years running one of Scott's big small blocks which were coming on the scene back then.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Signman

of course deny and deflect.

you are flat out LYING, we never had your claimed conversation!

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Yeah, buying a new one and just going racing will get you under the index but you won't be competitive. That probably is the easiest way to punch your ticket in but quite an investment to find out if you like something or not.

Disagree and apparently many stock eliminators disagree as well being that the Big 3 have sold in excess of $250,000,000 factory built stock eliminator cars to date.

Originally Posted by 1700camaro

I've done well at Spring Fling Million. Best finish, lost in the finals of Pro. I'm good with that check & the other checks. Sure, beats keyboarding about it.

As for my racing East of the Mississippi, I've been able to win at multiple different tracks & multiple different states. Not to leave out West of the Mississippi, same scenario.

I'm fine with not attending the Fling races back East, wouldn't mind but it hasn't fit in my schedule.
You stay East of the Mississippi, but you are more than welcome to come & race with me/us. Bring that Firechicken & show us how it's done. Remember, your performances last year were pathetic & that's being nice.

says a pathetic loser, a nobody who has never met me nor my son yet spends his weekends watching the live feed from my home track, waits until one of us, misses the tree or gives up the stripe so he can comment on my and/or my son's performance on DRR yet your silence is deafening when we're killing it and WINNING! Same reason you are here posting now, you're a pathetic loser!

Fact is you are more often than not a 1st round runner up at the Vegas Fling and have never competed in the Vegas Fling Million!

More facts, you don't travel outside your duck pond! Prove me wrong, AGAIN as I have done the last several years, I invite you to line up against me this year at the Galot and Bristol Flings. AGAIN, WE know you won't be there!

As to my performance last year...I just got back into the seat in 2023 of my Firebird to compete after sitting out competition for 5 years because my son wanted to compete in S/ST and top bulb with it. Further, when I stepped out it was a footbrake car and as of 2019 it's a top bulb car. Despite having never let go off the top, I was very competitive and went rounds on both entries Friday and Saturday at the Summer Fling last September AND I turned on the win light against my son who's one of the best under 30 in the country!

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[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by 1320racer
As to my performance last year...I got back into the seat of my Firebird after sitting out competition for 5 years because my son wanted to compete in S/ST and top bulb with it. Further, when I stepped out it was a footbrake car and as of 2019 it's a top bulb car. Despite having never let go off the top, I was very competitive and went rounds Friday and Saturday at the Summer Fling last September AND I turned on the win light against my son who's one of the best under 30 in the country!

"I" this and "I" that. "Me" this and "Me" that...

Surely indicates you are an egotistical, self-centered, J-Off who is detached from reality

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Disagree and apparently many stock eliminators disagree as well being that the Big 3 have sold in excess of $250,000,000 factory built stock eliminator cars to date.
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Ed, this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has nothing to do with what I said! I SAID that you can buy one and just go racing and be under the index but you won't be competitive. Now you apparently understand numbers but not the English language so why don't you humor an old man and tell him in numbers just how many of those $250M worth of "factory stock eliminator cars" are raced in their as-sold condition? How many have been bought and put into collections, never to be raced? More than you think.

[1320racer]

says a life long jealous, D-bag LOSER who just registered here as El Duderino to bait me!

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

tell him in numbers just how many of those $250M worth of "factory stock eliminator cars" are raced in their as-sold condition? How many have been bought and put into collections, never to be raced? More than you think.

Billy, I don't know and neither do you but the fact remains, that despite you not liking it nor liking where stock eliminator has gone and continues to go, the truth is it's never been easier to compete in stock eliminator with the introduction of factory race cars. That said, there was a time where STOCK production cars competed right off the showroom floor making it an entry level class and it's still today with these factory cars in my opinion and many others that I have spoken to over the years, including current stock racers.

[Glenn Briglio]

Damn the never ending thread............ I'm going to have to make more popcorn.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Damn the never ending thread............ I'm going to have to make more popcorn.

Glenn save some for me! This is certainly one of the more amusing threads in a while especially with opinions coming in from people that have not raced in both classes. That being said I have raced in both SST and Stock. I believe the intent of both was for them both to be entry level but for various reasons neither are now. The expense of Stock has turned it into anything but entry level and various rule changes and technology has made it even worse. Same goes for SST, with the invention of the throttle stop SST went from taking your 10.70 bracket car to you better bring a purpose built 9.50 or better car if you want to be competitive.
So the real answer here is there are no entry level categories anymore and eventually that will be an issue in keeping all of these categories alive.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by HR9121

there are no entry level categories anymore and eventually that will be an issue in keeping all of these categories alive.

That I can get behind and stock will die long before S/ST based on the current median age and lack of young racers coming into the class.