Bill, do you own a car?
Why would you ask?
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Do you drive one?
Again, why would you ask?
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Do you even work on one?
For the third time, why do you want to know this.
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This sounds like "KILL THE MESSENGER!!!"
It looks like you can't effectively deal with the issues of the subject at hand, so you try to deflect attention away from these issues by attacking the "Messenger," which is, in this case, ME.
Exactly what does my personal "car" status have to do with an antiquated system of racing that victimizes the first-to-leave by exposing them to red-light jeopardy 100-percent of the time, while removing, COMPLETELY, any red light jeopardy from the second car to leave, IF the first car redlights?
I don't know what earthly connection my cars, and what I do with them, could have to do with this software problem..
Maybe you could explain that to me; why you would rather use bandwidth here, to discredit me, than to discuss the issues involved in the worse red light problem.
You want to do anything BUT talk about the fact that 50-percent of the handicapped races run, give the advantage (the possibility of not having the potential to red light) to the second car to leave, whether it's an AA/SA car, or a V/SA car... it can and does happen to both, depending on whom they're racing against.
Your litany of advantages/disadvantages of slower/faster cars is not pertinent to this discussion. You can't try to "equalize" things between classes by "awarding" certain perks to this class or that; it would never end!!!
This worse red light system gives an advantage to NOBODY. NOBODY!!!
What could be fairer than that?
To be fair to you, though, I should give you a little personal background, because I haven't had a "class" car for a long time.
My drag racing started in 1955 (I was 17) at the Carlisle, Arkansas Drag Strip, where, 3 years later, I started working the Stocker tech line, and eventually was made an NHRA "Area Tech Advisor" by the Div. IV Division Director of the time, Dale Ham. It was an unpaid position, but I was given the responsibilty for keeping the Stock Car Classiication Guide keeping it updated, keeping all the tech sheets, and keeping them updated, and ruilng on protest decisions. I worked the Stocker Tech line there from 1958 'til I moved to Des Moines, IA in 1964. I worked the Stocker Tech line at that strip (Des Moines Dragway) until it closed in 1968. My race car at that time was a '57 Chevy sedan delivery Stocker, one of the never-never Hydramatic cars. Previously, I had run several Gas Coupes, (one a blown SBC/Hydro), and, sometimes in partnership with others.
My current ride is a '72 Valiant with a 360 Magnum/904 combination, a street/strip car with a Vortech centrifugal blower. It turns 106mph at our local 1,000-foot strip, (we don't have any quarter-mile strips in Arkansas, unfortunately). I keep the boost at a maximum of 10 pounds to preserve the head gaskets...
It makes me smile...
I have a couple of close friends who run Stockers; one in A/SA and one in H/SA... I keep current by hanging around them as much as I can, subscribing to Nitro Joe's Stats, and reading the results on Summit's FAST NEWS every time there's a race.
Is that addicted enough??? I'd race a class-legal Stocker if I could afford it.
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Hell, there's a possibility that I might drive a Top Fuel car. That doesn't change the way I think, either.
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I don't know "the way you think." I present you with what ~I~ think are good, legitimate reasons that this flawed system needs to be changed, and you respond by asking questions that makes it sound like I have NO IDEA what I'm talking about, and then, bring up 101 reasons why this or that is an advantage, and so what???
The things you mentioned are things we cannot change.
This is something we CAN change..
Look, Alan, this is in no way MY IDEA. In fact, I raced and watched racing religiously, for many, many, years before somebody clued me in as to the skewed way things are run, with regard to red lights, in handicapped races.
It took this guy about four or five tries, explaining it to me, for me to finally "get it." I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer...
Once I thought about it for a month or so, it finally sunk in, and I could not BE:LIEVE that I hadn't realized it, before! I believe in tradition... and have always thought that way... but, tradition, in this case, needs some shaking up.
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I don't HAVE an advantage. I raced a SLOW G/S car last year. If I drive next year, I might race something else slow.
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With the current system, you have an advantage every time you race a G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, and so on, car... That car might red light, giving you a free ride!!!
Overall, there may be a 50/50 split between your chasing and being chased, but you are still at a disadvantage any time you're the first to leave. Why should ANYBODY be at a disadvantage, regardless of when they leave (relative to the other car)???
This is something that can be fixed, but like I said, NHRA isn't going to bust their collective *** to do the right thing, because it will cost them a few bucks thay don't have, right now, and won't make them a plugged nickel.
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Of all the things that can be done to improve the condition of sportsman racing, if that improves it at all, that would have to be all the way at the bottom of the list. Of all the things that are wrong, the same people keep bringing up the red light thing. That's like treating a hang nail on a guy with a sucking chest wound. People need to stop growing pearls.
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