Qualifying with no AHFS

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

This has been floating for years. It has been brought up at SRAC, it has been proposed for Indy as a stand alone, it has been brought up as a Sportsnational only item, and it goes along with changes suggested or proposed for AHFS which has run it course IMHO. The NO AHFS at National Opens is a result of people asking it to go away so Somewhere you can run wide open. The AHFS was a result of a previous factoring system that was exposed to politics, but now it has been adjusted, interpreted, to where lots of if not most doubt its' effect. It's kind of like a Swimming Pool Tech told me about salt water pools; it takes about ten years for the flaws to appear from what was ideal on paper. No use in going into the flaws here, my fingers would wear out. I think NHRA might just want to see how fast some of these cars can run; old and new and in between. New being 2008 and newer, Old being carb(s) only, and In Between EFI. Maybe a new factoring system study?

^^ Good point.

Since I am a Ford guy, I did some studying of the classification guide for the OBD II Fords model years dating back to 1996. (FS cars do not count)

I find it interesting that in the last 10 years not one single 96 and newer eligible Ford has neither had a horsepower increase due to going too quick, nor has there been a h.p. decrease due to someone barely running the index and requesting a decrease in h.p.

That right there is telling to me...it means the combos are over factored and no one wants to build them.

If they did build them, they need to be at least 7-8 tenths under to be somewhat competitive .... (competitive meaning standing a decent chance in a same class match up ) Hasn't happened in 20 years because none of the production line OBD II Ford models are factored correctly.

IMO, NHRA needs to factor the production line models at 80% of their advertised SAE h.p. and let the racers build the combos.
Then let the AHFS take care of the quick combos.

Until then, I suppose we are back to 25-50 year old cars for the most part as our only choice.