Poking the Bear Ford Performance Products

[kdanner]

Originally Posted by Jim D'Amore

kdanner,


2014 NA Cobra Jet coyote in NHRA competition trim ran 9.33
Do you of another NA Cobra Jet running these times? Factory PCM


2008 Stock eliminator 5.4L 2.3L SC 8.24@167 Factory PCM


2010 FGT SS 5.4L 2.3L SC 8.14@167 Factory PCM


We've held 5 national records with factory PCM's


Combine with all our customers cars running factory PCM's 63 class Wally's and a bunch of #1 qualifiers, I don't even know how many I've lost count.


As far as my comment about money spent on R&D of the 5.4L 4.0L combination I guess I didn't mean to be as specific on the 4.0L but just the 5.4L in general. Sorry


What I meant by fair comparison is that for the showdown class you can not run Super Stock trim, you have to run stock eliminator trim. In stock eliminator trim I don't see the 5.4L 4.0L combination going faster than 8.30's, 8.20's at best.


How much experience do you have in building and racing the 5.4L motors? What do you know that I don't that the 5.4L 4.0L in Stock Eliminator trim can go 7.80's? Please share your experience about that, because the 5.4L 4.0L is legal for Stock eliminator.


I'm trying to keep this constructive, please do the same.

I'll try to be constructive Jim, it isn't easy with some of your statements here.

Regarding the factory PCM, you've stated that lack of RPM is a problem and I'm sure it is. You know there is plenty of EFI on the approved list which does not have that RPM problem. Not using the best available parts is simply not a good strategy.

Going by your own numbers given in your posts above, you're saying the 5.4/4.0 can only run 8.30, but you've got the 5.4/TVS running 8.24. So, much like Daren has already asked you, why clamor for this combination to be legal? Why spend a dime on it if it can't even run with the 5.4/TVS? I don't expect anyone to actually believe the TVS is quicker than the 4.0, but that is what you are claiming here.

After some of your latest statements here, I can't help but be reminded of Fun Ford Weekend, something like 15 years ago. They had a truck class that the rules were pretty wide open other than just being a Ford truck. You came in and started in wanting the rules changed so that they favored your Lightning customers. You didn't like the little Rangers with engine swaps and transbrakes, etc and got on their forums, repeatedly making statements to the effect that those vehicles built to the limits of the rules were unfair to your customers. They caved in and you got your way there. I do not believe you will succeed with similar tactics here.