Factory experimental

[Bruce Noland]

Billy,

I know you live in a very mysterious world. But I don't remember ever saying the things you just brought up.

But do we now agree?

[Billy Nees]

100%

[Chuck Beach]

Greg,
The LT1 and the LS1 were both in my class and I got my ***** handed to me lots of times until they put them in their own class ... and now they are back, but don't fit in my class anymore ...

[Bruce Noland]

Chuck,
As I remember you were the one doing all the mega-complaining about those cars when they came out! And you're still complaining about them; after all these years.

You can bet we'll be on the 2010 Corvette too. This is not about OEM favorites it's about the OEM's abusing the Stock category - with nhra's help and gratitude of course.

[Tim Kish]

Now look at it this way. The first year with a new engine/vehicle combo that comes out underfactored will be tough on existing cars in their class - nothing to debate. BUT look at the fact that there are many of these cars being built so there will be a bunch of them running. With several cars being built there are going to be times or people that hang them out there and show what they can do. Someones ego will kick in becuase they wanna win class or another heads up pass - short list of people out there that actually will lift and give up the stripe to save index in Super Stock (we're not Comp racers). Just like the LT1 and LS motor cars - they'll right themselves within a couple seasons.

Look at the new combos as stimulating the racing economy - if its such an easy car to build and be competitive, a bunch will be built (just like the LT1/LS1 cars were) which supports race shops and parts suppliers - the same group of people we're all crying are not paying contingency. Heck if no new combos came around the race shops and parts suppliers would dry up if they weren't selling consumable items.

[Greg Hill]

Chuck I remember when the LT1's came out at 275 hp. Pontiac was the official NHRA car and they were capable of running a second under with a cam change , rear gear and headers. The reason NHRA had to make the fuel injected classes is that they wouldn't factor the engines properly. After 66 hp on the LT1's they are no better than a lot of combinations. My biggest concern with the new Ford and Chrysler cars is that they are factory built race cars and always before would be in Super stock, aka. the 68 Cuda's and Darts. If the LT1's were still at 275 hp you would be bitchin too. If these new cars are factored properly they will be out of stock eliminator because they won't fit because of the weight break.

Greg

[Chuck Beach]

Bruce,
You must be old like me, you need to check your memory, I don't recall complaining about them, I just raced against them ...

[Chad Rhodes]

guys. the 93 camaro/Firebird was rated by GM at 275, it gained 10 HP somewhere along the way (with the exception of the SS/Ram Air cars). The LS F bodys were factory rated at 305 for the non ram air cars. The SS and Ram Air cars DO carry extra HP. Those cars were rated at their factory ratings when introduced into stock eliminator

[Bruce Noland]

Chuck,

We are all getting older, but you must remember that we have been crossing paths for about 13 years now. You were not at all happy about those cars.

But those cars were nothing compared to the little Supercharged monsters that are about to come in and raid the cookie jar - with nhra's help of course. You can't compare these After Market Super Stockers with anything that we have seen before in Stock.

Let's wait' n see!!

[John Lang]

This year is goig to be the most fun a person can have, and still have there clothes on!!!!!!! John Lang