Boss 302 stocker

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Unless I am badly mistaken, the 340 T/A and AAR drag cars never had the right power-to-weight factor to run C/SA. They usually ran E/SA or F/SA.
The REAL TransAm E-body Mopars had a de-stroked 340 with 304 cubic inches, but the dealerships never got their hands on any of those to sell.

There was a pink 340 NHRA Stocker from Apple Valley CA, driven by a girl, who ran competitively in Division seven for several years, and I think it ran E/SA. As an aside, the guy who tuned it told me one day, that it ran marginally quicker and faster with single 750 Thermoquad carb than it did with the three twos.

What you may have seen in C/SA was a '70 Barracuda or Dodge Challenger with a 440 6-pack engine; I believe they ran C/SA, or B/SA, depending on their ballast situation.

Hope this helps...

Bill

You are mistaken. As named in the last post, it was Gene Buell who set the C/SA record with a 1970 Challenger T/A with a 340-6. The original factors had them in slower classes because they were difficult to make run competitively. But he apparently got it figured out and got factored several times unil the car could actually make C/SA.

Check out a National Dragster from last Summer or so. I believe it was a factored 10.33, but apparently retired/reset last year.

But you are correct about the owners of the pink Challenger running faster with a TQ as a '71 than it did with a 6 pack as a '70.


As for the Boss 302 in Stock, my ex-boss had one in the day and always complained that the Z-28's would always get out quicker and a 1/4 mile just wasn't quite enough to reel them in. (Paul Duzs - York or US 30, or something like that.

[Dave Turner]

It was many years ago of course, but I believe Arlen Fadely ran a Boss 302 car in stock.

[jltefft1]

Thanks for the responses. I am not "brand loyal" and enjoy watching all the different combinations race and would like to see more diversity. My shop teacher, engage the "way back machine", had a 67 Ford Fairlane Country Squire--roof rack and a 427, When he would send us out for parts for shop class and we got to use the wagon. That thing hauled ***!!. Now I see one running in c/sa? with the wheels in the air. He's passed away now but boy would he be shocked to see that!! Another car that i have never seen is the Boss 429 Mustang. Is it a legal combo? Jim

[John Lang]

The current C/SA record is 10.50 held by Richard Pauley, driving a 68 Ford! Set at Las Vegas, Nev. This is as of today in my brand new N.D. Later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, John Lang P.SS Set 11.07.08

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

You are mistaken. As named in the last post, it was Gene Buell who set the C/SA record with a 1970 Challenger T/A with a 340-6. The original factors had them in slower classes because they were difficult to make run competitively. But he apparently got it figured out and got factored several times unil the car could actually make C/SA.

Check out a National Dragster from last Summer or so. I believe it was a factored 10.33, but apparently retired/reset last year.

But you are correct about the owners of the pink Challenger running faster with a TQ as a '71 than it did with a 6 pack as a '70.


As for the Boss 302 in Stock, my ex-boss had one in the day and always complained that the Z-28's would always get out quicker and a 1/4 mile just wasn't quite enough to reel them in. (Paul Duzs - York or US 30, or something like that.

I think it's all in the RPM. They both will RPM and the Z-28 302 will have more torque. That's why the Z-28 has always been faster in Stock, more TQ. I know of one Z-28 running solid 10.50's right now. There's no reason a Boss couldn't do the same. As I said, it's all in the clutch being able to handle a really high RPM launch on a 9" slick. High base pressure and high counterweight will not work.
I'll betcha one of those new Mustang bodies have less weight to carry so adjusting weight will be more productive than with an OEM body.

[Chris1529]

I know it is not quite in the same league, but a guy here close to me has a 68 Bronco that he used to dirt drag and now has run in the mud races a couple times. It is a 289 with Boss 302 heads on it.
It was originally built back in the late 70's and has been updated since then. I hate to borrow the line from Dodge, but when you are sitting on a hillside at the fairgrounds and he starts it up, it sounds sweeeet.


what about a 289/271. I think maybe I have only seen one of them run in stock/ss. what is the factor on that engine? Probably a little high to make it a competitive combo?

I can't remember seeing a boss 429 either jltefft1.