Factory experimental

Ken Miele · 01-22-2009, 03:18 PM

Bruce, I did not mean to make light of this subject, because it is an important one. I did feel the need to respond to bsa633. There are many that like to throw the words "paper cars" around. We all work hard on our combo's and a large amount of cars that race today have been given some kind of concession. Meaning the stuff they run on their car may not have be a factory produced item. I guess it comes down what you feel is okay and what crosses the line. Like Jack said, we need to have fun, there are to many bad things that happen is the world, racing is not one of them.

The CJ's are an explosive issue, but only time will tell what they are capable of. I know I will have my work cut out for me and I probably will not be able to run with them when they get it right. I have never been the fastest car in my class anyway, so its not much of a change for me.

Thanks for the complements on my administrating duties, but I'm sure there are some that have a different opinion of me. Patience is a must when administrating a forum like this.

Bruce Noland · 01-22-2009, 03:43 PM

Kenny,
I did not think you were making light of this issue. We've been through a lot with this one. I think it has gone very well considering it's size. Some wandering will always happen. Guilty of that myself.

X-TECH MAN · 01-22-2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Miele

Patience is a must when administrating a forum like this.

Patience is a MUST when racing a 428 CJ FORD.......lol. Just kidding Kenny.

junior barns · 01-22-2009, 03:52 PM

Kenny, I too think you do a good job administrating this site.

As for your car not being the fastest! I'm not sure, maybe not the fastest but one fast car and very competitive! I wanted to see it race at Indy this past year.

You are right though about not being competitive when this particular car gets it sh**t right! Everyone; when it comes to class racing, wants the chance to be competitive if they (work hard) and I just dont think any of the upper class cars will be for a long time!! Just my opinion!

Time will tell

Bruce Noland · 01-22-2009, 03:59 PM

I'm not sure if SS/JA's post about a pass of 8.90s at more than 150 MPH for the Cobra Jet was from todays test session in Arizona. I was told a couple of the Cobra Jets were going to test today in Arizona today. We'll wait'n see.

Bruce Noland · 01-22-2009, 04:03 PM

Jack,
You got that wrong. That is not how "our" system works. The vehicles are supposedly classified in a fair and honest manner to begin with and then nhra should make adjustments as necessary. These cars have been grossly under factored and once they run in the AA or A class that is where they will stay. Did you see SS/JA's post?

bill dedman · 01-22-2009, 04:11 PM

X Tech Man said, "Patience is a MUST when racing a 428 CJ FORD.......lol. Just kidding Kenny."

Look at the blueprint specs, X-Tech Man...

Calling Kenny's car a "Cobra Jet" is like calling an SR-71 Blackbird a Piper Cub...

jeesh... read the specs and tell me what you think. Additionally, I'm sure you know that Cobra Jets weren't in existence, yet, in 1967.

Kenny's car is a '67 GT500. If anybody is well-prepared to do battle with these new, blown, "Cobra Jets," it's Kenny... and, you know what? I hope he gets it done; how ironic would that be????

Hee hee.....

Jack Matyas · 01-22-2009, 04:23 PM

Bruce -- Yes, I saw the post about 8.90 @150 and I'm at the Ford dealer now ordering one but they won't equip it with E-shift .....damm . And I not a fan of white...........but they said a torque arm could be put on after the letter from Carroll shows up .

Point is that NHRA relies on the manufacturer horsepower figures to classify cars -- how else would they do it ? Guessing would also not be fair........put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment .

Bruce Noland · 01-22-2009, 04:28 PM

Jack,
I thought you were a used car salesman. What ya doing at a Ford Dealership? I may have just gotten off the boat yesterday but I didn't live all night for nuth'n. You know I have been asking you to do the same thing for a week now and you never managed to see it that way.

Jack Matyas · 01-22-2009, 04:42 PM

Bruce -- here's a secret I'll let out of the bag............roots with Ford . I'll jump to the other side of the fence when they run 9.50's .

01-22-2009, 03:18 PM	#1
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 461 Liked 16,560 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Bruce, I did not mean to make light of this subject, because it is an important one. I did feel the need to respond to bsa633. There are many that like to throw the words "paper cars" around. We all work hard on our combo's and a large amount of cars that race today have been given some kind of concession. Meaning the stuff they run on their car may not have be a factory produced item. I guess it comes down what you feel is okay and what crosses the line. Like Jack said, we need to have fun, there are to many bad things that happen is the world, racing is not one of them. The CJ's are an explosive issue, but only time will tell what they are capable of. I know I will have my work cut out for me and I probably will not be able to run with them when they get it right. I have never been the fastest car in my class anyway, so its not much of a change for me. Thanks for the complements on my administrating duties, but I'm sure there are some that have a different opinion of me. Patience is a must when administrating a forum like this.

01-22-2009, 03:43 PM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Kenny, I did not think you were making light of this issue. We've been through a lot with this one. I think it has gone very well considering it's size. Some wandering will always happen. Guilty of that myself. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-22-2009, 03:52 PM	#4
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Kenny, I too think you do a good job administrating this site. As for your car not being the fastest! I'm not sure, maybe not the fastest but one fast car and very competitive! I wanted to see it race at Indy this past year. You are right though about not being competitive when this particular car gets it sh*t right! Everyone; when it comes to class racing, wants the chance to be competitive if they (work hard) and I just dont think any of the upper class cars will be for a long time!! Just my opinion! Time will tell Last edited by junior barns; 01-22-2009 at 03:54 PM. Reason: spelling*

01-22-2009, 03:59 PM	#5
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental I'm not sure if SS/JA's post about a pass of 8.90s at more than 150 MPH for the Cobra Jet was from todays test session in Arizona. I was told a couple of the Cobra Jets were going to test today in Arizona today. We'll wait'n see. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-22-2009, 04:03 PM	#6
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Jack, You got that wrong. That is not how "our" system works. The vehicles are supposedly classified in a fair and honest manner to begin with and then nhra should make adjustments as necessary. These cars have been grossly under factored and once they run in the AA or A class that is where they will stay. Did you see SS/JA's post? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 01-22-2009 at 04:05 PM.

01-22-2009, 04:11 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Factory experimental X Tech Man said, "Patience is a MUST when racing a 428 CJ FORD.......lol. Just kidding Kenny." Look at the blueprint specs, X-Tech Man... Calling Kenny's car a "Cobra Jet" is like calling an SR-71 Blackbird a Piper Cub... jeesh... read the specs and tell me what you think. Additionally, I'm sure you know that Cobra Jets weren't in existence, yet, in 1967. Kenny's car is a '67 GT500. If anybody is well-prepared to do battle with these new, blown, "Cobra Jets," it's Kenny... and, you know what? I hope he gets it done; how ironic would that be???? Hee hee..... __________________ Bill

01-22-2009, 04:23 PM	#8
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,931 Likes: 407 Liked 2,052 Times in 400 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Bruce -- Yes, I saw the post about 8.90 @150 and I'm at the Ford dealer now ordering one but they won't equip it with E-shift .....damm . And I not a fan of white...........but they said a torque arm could be put on after the letter from Carroll shows up . Point is that NHRA relies on the manufacturer horsepower figures to classify cars -- how else would they do it ? Guessing would also not be fair........put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment . __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

01-22-2009, 04:28 PM	#9
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Jack, I thought you were a used car salesman. What ya doing at a Ford Dealership? I may have just gotten off the boat yesterday but I didn't live all night for nuth'n. You know I have been asking you to do the same thing for a week now and you never managed to see it that way. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-22-2009, 04:42 PM	#10
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,931 Likes: 407 Liked 2,052 Times in 400 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Bruce -- here's a secret I'll let out of the bag............roots with Ford . I'll jump to the other side of the fence when they run 9.50's . Attached Thumbnails __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO Last edited by Jack Matyas; 01-22-2009 at 04:47 PM.

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