Factory experimental

442OLDS · 01-24-2009, 11:51 PM

I went to a Drag Expo today and there was quite a bit of discussion through out the show on these cars.Stock Eliminator will FINALLY be getting some media coverage I think.This is good for everyone involved in Stock Eliminator.Add a little weight,and get out of AA/SA or AA/S.I can run in F/SA at 3950 with my car.The weight actually makes the car more consistant.I do think that a 700 horsepower supercharged car in Stock is ridiculous,but be glad that NHRA hasn't allowed John Force to run his Funny Car in Stock Eliminator........................................ .....YET!

Bruce Noland · 01-25-2009, 12:12 AM

MPR,
I believe Alan was referring to the 4 Hajek cars that have been farmed out to some very talented racers.

Alan Roehrich · 01-25-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

MPR,
I believe Alan was referring to the 4 Hajek cars that have been farmed out to some very talented racers.

Bruce, I do not remember saying anyone got anything for free. I think the closest I got to saying that is saying Ford should have helped Red LeBlanc get one.

442OLDS · 01-25-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Longbob

Let's see him drive the finish line stripe.

He will pull the chute at 1000ft.

Bruce Noland · 01-25-2009, 12:22 AM

Chuck R.,
The automatic CJ's seem to be doing ok on the 9 inch tires.

I went to an outlaw race last fall and saw a bunch of crazy guys going 210 on 10.5 tires. These CJ's have the best folks working on them and I bet they will get them sorted out.
Thanks.

Bruce Noland · 01-25-2009, 12:41 AM

Everybody has to make an honest attempt to stay on topic and no taunting posts.

This old thread has become a big diesel truck and we have to keep it between the lines.

s10stocker · 01-25-2009, 12:46 AM

I'm sorry but I don't believe there is one class out there that doesn't have that one killer combo that no one could hang with heads up. Usually it is a very odd combo inwitch they are there own worst enemy so they never take a hit. I'm a N/A V6 pickup and I run P/SA. My one killer combo I would never want to run is that Turbo 301ci V8 Pontiac Firebird. No matter what the factored HP is does anyone think a Turbo 301ci V8 sportscar should fall in with V6 trucks and station wagons? The best thing that could happen with these Mustangs is let them come out and get some heads up races even better still with each other. It will all shake out. Just think how madd yall would be if they would only let one of these out instead of a dozen. Like it or not this is bringing the MFGs and public back to sportsman racing. I'm a Chevy guy but hats off to Ford on showing interest in more than John Force(with his hemi powerplant) or NASCAR.

Larry Munk · 01-25-2009, 07:55 AM

With all the talk about getting the power down. Are they running the OE ECU's? I believe our 01 GT had traction control of some sort. Push button deal on the dash to disengage. If it's in the oe computer (ala e-shift) can it now be legal? Evan any input on traction control in Ford OE ECU's?

Alan Roehrich · 01-25-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I went to a Drag Expo today and there was quite a bit of discussion through out the show on these cars.Stock Eliminator will FINALLY be getting some media coverage I think.This is good for everyone involved in Stock Eliminator.Add a little weight,and get out of AA/SA or AA/S.I can run in F/SA at 3950 with my car.The weight actually makes the car more consistant.I do think that a 700 horsepower supercharged car in Stock is ridiculous,but be glad that NHRA hasn't allowed John Force to run his Funny Car in Stock Eliminator........................................ .....YET!

We have more HP than you. The excess weight really hurts parts. The guys with the Corvettes are bending rear suspension pieces running minimum weight in A. Talk to Calabro and Fasano about that. None of us could run B, at least not without killing drivetrain parts.

Stock will get about 10 extra minutes coverage from this, all year, if one of those cars wins a big race. NHRA couldn't care less about Stock getting any coverage. Stock gets maybe 30 seconds or so in the Sportsman show. We made a very small splash on the coverage for the Gators, they showed us when they came back from commercial, called the owner/driver by name, and showed a big wheel stand. I think that was the only mention of Stock I saw other than showing a quick shot of the winner all year.

Dick Butler · 01-25-2009, 09:09 AM

Dealing with the TOP/STK and Jr/STK I have to congratulate FORD for continuing their dedication to Drag Racing and pushing forward in the economic climate everywhere.
This is STK and SS chance to re take a part of the "SHOW" at NHRA and other events. NHRA will bend its rules or change them to get these cars a place to race as even THEY see the "SHOW" value of Heads Up Sportsman racing. NHRA needs it financially again to hope spectators will come to see these cars race show up and pay admission. If a wise man is in the business he will exploit it.
Between the BIG 3 they need to get a Camaro and a Challenger that can fit the same class together without a 500 lb ballast problem to be sure the "SHOW" can be complete again.
Racers need to work with this "SHOW" idea if at all possible for the benefits that will be there for everyone.
Look at FORD, they even stepped up to give a Prize for a ford winner. More sponsors to come back or support this new car show.

01-24-2009, 11:51 PM	#1
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Factory experimental I went to a Drag Expo today and there was quite a bit of discussion through out the show on these cars.Stock Eliminator will FINALLY be getting some media coverage I think.This is good for everyone involved in Stock Eliminator.Add a little weight,and get out of AA/SA or AA/S.I can run in F/SA at 3950 with my car.The weight actually makes the car more consistant.I do think that a 700 horsepower supercharged car in Stock is ridiculous,but be glad that NHRA hasn't allowed John Force to run his Funny Car in Stock Eliminator........................................ .....YET!

01-25-2009, 12:12 AM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental MPR, I believe Alan was referring to the 4 Hajek cars that have been farmed out to some very talented racers. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-25-2009, 12:22 AM	#5
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Chuck R., The automatic CJ's seem to be doing ok on the 9 inch tires. I went to an outlaw race last fall and saw a bunch of crazy guys going 210 on 10.5 tires. These CJ's have the best folks working on them and I bet they will get them sorted out. Thanks. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-25-2009, 12:41 AM	#6
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Everybody has to make an honest attempt to stay on topic and no taunting posts. This old thread has become a big diesel truck and we have to keep it between the lines. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-25-2009, 12:46 AM	#7
s10stocker Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 55 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Factory experimental I'm sorry but I don't believe there is one class out there that doesn't have that one killer combo that no one could hang with heads up. Usually it is a very odd combo inwitch they are there own worst enemy so they never take a hit. I'm a N/A V6 pickup and I run P/SA. My one killer combo I would never want to run is that Turbo 301ci V8 Pontiac Firebird. No matter what the factored HP is does anyone think a Turbo 301ci V8 sportscar should fall in with V6 trucks and station wagons? The best thing that could happen with these Mustangs is let them come out and get some heads up races even better still with each other. It will all shake out. Just think how madd yall would be if they would only let one of these out instead of a dozen. Like it or not this is bringing the MFGs and public back to sportsman racing. I'm a Chevy guy but hats off to Ford on showing interest in more than John Force(with his hemi powerplant) or NASCAR. __________________ George Roussel Jr. 4262 1996 S10 n-o-p/sa

01-25-2009, 07:55 AM	#8
Larry Munk Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 135 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Factory experimental With all the talk about getting the power down. Are they running the OE ECU's? I believe our 01 GT had traction control of some sort. Push button deal on the dash to disengage. If it's in the oe computer (ala e-shift) can it now be legal? Evan any input on traction control in Ford OE ECU's?

01-25-2009, 09:09 AM	#10
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Dealing with the TOP/STK and Jr/STK I have to congratulate FORD for continuing their dedication to Drag Racing and pushing forward in the economic climate everywhere. This is STK and SS chance to re take a part of the "SHOW" at NHRA and other events. NHRA will bend its rules or change them to get these cars a place to race as even THEY see the "SHOW" value of Heads Up Sportsman racing. NHRA needs it financially again to hope spectators will come to see these cars race show up and pay admission. If a wise man is in the business he will exploit it. Between the BIG 3 they need to get a Camaro and a Challenger that can fit the same class together without a 500 lb ballast problem to be sure the "SHOW" can be complete again. Racers need to work with this "SHOW" idea if at all possible for the benefits that will be there for everyone. Look at FORD, they even stepped up to give a Prize for a ford winner. More sponsors to come back or support this new car show.

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