Factory experimental

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by 1664SSJA

Man...............those are some GREAT looking new generation stockers!
Why is A/SA on them?

Because Ford sent a letter saying the cars have been detuned to 335HP like the original CJs.
That site reads like a press kit release from FOMOCO.

Ed F.

[DK FRAZIER]

4 Cars 2 Sticks and 2 Auto My guess is AA/SA AA/S A/SA A/S why dominate 1 class when you can dominate 4 !!!!

[Greg Hill]

The thing that really bothers me about this is that it's obvious that Ford did this with hp numbers they knew were bogus and that's like stealing. The other thing is that NHRA let them get away with it without protecting their own members from unfair competition. I was about ready to buy a new Ford Edge, I think now I will look at GM's.

Greg

[Chuck Beach]

Greg,
So who was stealing when they set the LT1 (305 factory) to 275hp and the LS1 (310 non ram or 325 ram air factory) to 305? NHRA or GM?

[Greg Hill]

Chuck, If you remember Pontiac was the official car of NHRA when the LT1's first came out. I had to run against them in my 67 Camaro with a 350 power glide. You talk about making a car irrelevant. The failure of NHRA to properly factor these cars led to creation of the fuel injected classes. After 14 years and 66 horsepower the LT1's are no better than a lot of combos but look how long it took that to happen. At least the Firebirds and Camaros were regular production cars and not aftermarket built racecars with motors that don't come in anything else. Do you think we should go through another scenario like the LT1's or the Ls1's? I don't.

Greg

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

Greg,
So who was stealing when they set the LT1 (305 factory) to 275hp and the LS1 (310 non ram or 325 ram air factory) to 305? NHRA or GM?

Chuck,
Do you think it is okay to do it again, now, because it happened in the past? Two wrongs make a right?

How about we try to stop, or at least slow, the down hill slide?

[Evan Smith]

I agree with Chuck.

Greg, please let me understand you better. Are you are saying it's not OK for Ford to under-rate a vehicle (which has been done since the inception of our beloved class), but it is OK for GM to claim a car that was never built (1998 LT-1 F-body)? Or clearly under-rate the LS1? Is this not cheating the system (for the purpose of manufacturers championships points)?

BTW, the Ford Edge is great vehicle and at last check Ford is offering X-plan-type incentives for any NHRA racers who want to purchase a Ford. You can contact Jesse Kershaw at Ford Racing for more details. What is GM or Mopar doing for racers?

Remember, it is still the NHRA's party and it can re-factor a combination as it sees fit. So, if this car is really that fast NHRA can act accordingly. We can type all we want but it is moot until the cars run in Pomona.

Evan

[Greg Hill]

Evan I' m saying exactly that. When they put this new Mustang out with bogus numbers it's like stealing from other racers who have to race against it. One thing you are right about is that NHRA can do what they want without any transparency or without regard to how it hurts their own members. How it affects their organization as time goes by remains to be seen.

Greg

[Greg Hill]

One other thing is that who cares if a Firebird is a 97 or 98. It's basically the same car.

Greg

[Dick Butler]

First the new Mustang idea is good for the sport if used wisely by NHRA.
Arent they part of the plan for a racing Camaro project(cancelled by economy) and the challenger by Chrysler to compete again in one class?
Why wouldnt NHRA put them by themselves? no chevies being built to race, no Chryslers yet? They are ready to run and need tested against something? See how it changes with Challengers arriving.
Body in White Camaro may be produced and used yet.