Pro funny stock

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

This deal about EFI comes and go's, but you have no idea about the added cost this will add. It will also have a bigger spread between the have's and and the have nots. The cost of having factory engineer's to baby set the teams. The people to witre the soft ware. The only way it would work is to have a spec ecu that is sealed (so no traction control0, Throttle body, injector and will will still have to have some type of buldge on the hood to clear manifodls and valvecovers. Now don't tell me I have no idea what i am talking about cause I have seen first hand what the expense is from the IRL and Rolex serris DP & GT program. for the last 8 years.
Ralph

OK....go with ONE 4 barr carb and keep it under the hood. NO GIANT hood scoops. Use real body pannels. Get the air thru the grill. 500 inch, 400 inch or small blocks so someone other than multi million dollor companies have to support it. They way it is now just SUCKS.

[joe lewis]

draglist.com has a related site by danny white,"it's time to create nostalgia pro stock"

[BlueOval Ralph]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

OK....go with ONE 4 barr carb and keep it under the hood. NO GIANT hood scoops. Use real body pannels. Get the air thru the grill. 500 inch, 400 inch or small blocks so someone other than multi million dollor companies have to support it. They way it is now just SUCKS.

I agree with this one. But the whole EFI deal scares the he-- out of me. It could add any where from $200,000.00 to 350,00.00, 400,000.00 range if you had that much and were willing to spend it.
Ralph

[Urraco]

Pro stock evolved from superstock at the beginning but it has gotton way out of hand and is nothing more than gas powered funny cars now. The true spirit of the class has been lost for more than 20 years.

[Steve Williams]

I don't agree with the posts about EFI. There is going to be an initial cost but after that it should be smooth sailing. You are going to pay somebody to educate you and hopefully you learn to do the tune on your own or it creates a crew position. But 3-400,000 dollars is way out of line. Where did those figures come from? Exxon-Mobil?

Steve

[BlueOval Ralph]

Originally Posted by Steve Williams

I don't agree with the posts about EFI. There is going to be an initial cost but after that it should be smooth sailing. You are going to pay somebody to educate you and hopefully you learn to do the tune on your own or it creates a crew position. But 3-400,000 dollars is way out of line. Where did those figures come from? Exxon-Mobil?

Steve

Where did those figures come from?

From other programs I have been involved with, unless the sanctioning boby specs the ecu, throttle bdy nad injectors you can spennd that much easily (Bosch, PacTel and other ecus. It is very easy to get lost on a injector development progam and spend up to $1,600.00 ea (thats $25,600 per engine for 2 or 3 hp) on injectors not only on spray patterns but also targeting them and what if you use 2 per cylinder??? Thats 16 per engine then you get into the overhead ( for cooling the charge) vrs the injector spraying into cylinder. Unless you have been involved in program like this you just don't know how much $$$ you can spend. You will hneed a electrical eng and a enginer that can write the codes and understands these ECU's. Most of the Bosch ECUs have to be done in German ( the base code). This will not be a retuned stocker.
Ralph

[dynomo]

The prostockers of the day are no farther out there than the 9 second stockers that are faster than the original prostockers on onlly 9 inch tires

[joe lewis]

harold martin has been running efi successfully in pro mod for afew years now.also ihra has efi classess also,which also can run nhra.(a/fia in ihra is a/sa in nhra)a 1970 pro stock ran 10's or 9.9's.2009 pro stock runs 6.60's to 6.50's.a a/sa in 1970 ran 10.80's.a a/sa in 2009 runs9.70's.now tell me how stock has evolved as much as pro stock.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Originally Posted by joe lewis

harold martin has been running efi successfully in pro mod for afew years now.also ihra has efi classess also,which also can run nhra.(a/fia in ihra is a/sa in nhra)a 1970 pro stock ran 10's or 9.9's.2009 pro stock runs 6.60's to 6.50's.a a/sa in 1970 ran 10.80's.a a/sa in 2009 runs9.70's.now tell me how stock has evolved as much as pro stock.

harold martin has been running efi successfully in pro mod for afew years.

How many IHRA national events has he won???

[dynomo]

pro mod is not in any way prostock and Harold Martins race record has nothing to do with the use of efi in prostock it's up to the santioning bodys to make the rules it's all about the money if some efi company stepped forward with money for the nhra or the class efi would be there tomorow