Pro funny stock

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

harold martin has been running efi successfully in pro mod for afew years.

How many IHRA national events has he won???

The combination will work, it is a matter of tuning. Pat Musi uses EFI and he has done very well in the NMCA scene. Although he may not have any wins I think he has proven the combo can rus fast with the nitrous guys.

[Paul Neal]

I had a dual 4bbl setup when I first went SuperComp racing. A couple of years later I switched to an EFI setup from Harold Martin. Yes, there was a significant initial expense, mainly in the ECU and injectors. However, I'm sure my dual throttle bodies and the associated hardware are far less expensive than the many sets of carburetors a typical Pro Stock team has both at the shop for the dyno and in the trailer at the track.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by joe lewis

.a a/sa in 1970 ran 10.80's.a a/sa in 2009 runs9.70's.now tell me how stock has evolved as much as pro stock.

I`m not denying that current Pro Stock has gotten out of hand, but I really doubt that any A/SA cars were running 10.8`s in 1970. I think it was 1976 when Jim Waldos A/S 427 Fairlane was credited with running the 1rst 10 second pass in Stock Eliminator.

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

I agree with this one. But the whole EFI deal scares the he-- out of me. It could add any where from $200,000.00 to 350,00.00, 400,000.00 range if you had that much and were willing to spend it.
Ralph

Where are you coming up with these figures?? I run EFI on my Super Stocker and have nowhere near that much spent on my system!! And I don't think the Pro Stock systems would be that much different!

[BlueOval Ralph]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Where are you coming up with these figures?? I run EFI on my Super Stocker and have nowhere near that much spent on my system!! And I don't think the Pro Stock systems would be that much different!

Where are you coming up with these figures??
You looks to as if you don't read well! As I said in earlier posts Actual IRL and Rolex Daytona Prototypes. Two different series and real life experience. Not Stock or Super Stock! Real budgets to do these programs and writing the Purchase orders to pay for them. You can do your Super Stocker for a lot less BUT until regulated this Pro Stock to Spec ECU, Injectors and Throtle Body the sky is the limit. Just go and price the Bosch or PacTel type systems out.

[bill dedman]

RE: R & D costs on F.I. systems.... apples/oranges....

For one thing, all drag racers need is "an on/off switch" whereas, cars that must turn corners have throttle sensitivity issues; they must perform at part throttle in such a way that the driver can dictate corner-negotiating behavior that will allow varying degrees of oversteering the car with power. Hanging the tail out with power, so-to-speak.

Drag racers just need to stab it and steer it; keep it in the groove with the throttle wide open continuously. That means that a fuel injection system only has to be engineered to deliver max power at full throttle during the run.... a whole lot less complicated deal than trying to engineer part-throttle driveability into the system.

Bottom line? A lot less expensive R & D...

F.A.S.T. fuel injection systems, and I'm sure several others, have systems that could be easily adapted to Pro Stock motors without breaking the bank. As long as NHRA is going to dictate what carburetor with a specified throttle bore opening that can be legally used (as they have, for many years), why couldn't they dictate a spec. fuel injection system, which would preclude runaway R & D costs?

If they said everyone has to run a F.A.S.T. FI system as it comes from that company, what's the reason that costs would become prohibitive?


Sure, it's a spec, cookie-cutter deal, but no more so than what they have now. Holley Dominators are Holley Dominators... Last time I checked, they all looked pretty much the same....

It's do-able.... but NHRA officials who make policy probably own a bunch of Holley stock.... Now, if we could just get them to buy some stock in a F.I. comany....

[Michael Lyons]

Ok so maybe Warren shouldn't be allowed to paint his grill... but I still kinda like PFS :P How bout that Anderson running a 6.58 outta the box on a green racetrack?!!! Hard to imagine a 2 valve pushrod 500 inch motor on gas running that fast... I remember when that woulda been a good run in an alky funny car! And yes the class has evolved and they have to mutate the front ends so that its fair for all makes and screw around with the back of the cars to fit the tires and they need the wing to keep em on the ground because of all the speed... sorry.. And what interest would there be in the class if you slow them down?... I can understand the EFI thing yes, but I kinda like the hood scoops. I mean even the production cars don't look like a 72 camaro anymore... don't blame it on the scoops... I kinda like most the classes in regular drag racing. Some more than others, but I've had a class pulled out from under me and watched another class get pulled out from under my dad so I say leave em alone. You can't please all the people all the time..

[impstocker]

In response to zracer305 we have to use the clutch when we shift in Stock Eliminator too? OOPS....