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Old 02-11-2009, 11:18 AM   #1
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Bruce,

I am not a representative of Ford, I am only posting my opinion, just like you. I happen to work on a Ford magazine and I race a Ford, but I really am just a car guy. I think it is very cool that the guys at Ford have an interest in Stock Eliminator and they have done quite a bit to help Ford Sportsman racers, such as upping the contingency money and helping with parts. I stated that I agree that the cars are under-rated, but as we all know, this has been going on for a long time. Ford is playing the game that we, and the manufacturers all play. There are other combinations in NHRA Stock that are grossly underrated—some have never even been run hard, such as the Ford Lightning.

I disagree, however, that NHRA should dyno the engines unless they do ALL engines. The fact that you are willing to give up your own engine for testing is meaningless unless EVERY Stock racer does the same. And even then, how can you draw a conclusion based on one engine from only testing each engine type? It doesn't matter if the CJ engine could make 1,000 hp unless NHRA is going to dyno all engines and then factor all engines based on the results. Frankly, it is a moot point as I seriously doubt NHRA is going to set a new precedent for factoring Stockers. I certainly realize that you want to know the full capabilities of the CJ, but I would like to know the same thing about my competition. So would every racer.

Since I don't on a CJ I can't post hp numbers. I have been to one dyno session and since I don't own the car I can not post the hp numbers. That would not be fair.

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Old 02-11-2009, 11:35 AM   #2
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Evan,
We don't need to dyno all the cars in Stock to determine a fair Horsepower value for the CJ. Thanks for your response.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:41 AM   #3
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The two automatic cars at the Winternationals had electric water pump drives and manual racks on them. The four Cobra jets at the Winternationals did not qualify 1,2,3,and 4 and, with the exception of John Calvert, were not the fastest cars in their respective classes , so why can't you guys get over it?
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:13 PM   #4
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The two automatic cars at the Winternationals had electric water pump drives and manual racks on them. The four Cobra jets at the Winternationals did not qualify 1,2,3,and 4 and, with the exception of John Calvert, were not the fastest cars in their respective classes , so why can't you guys get over it?

They are not running the CJ anywhere near their limits. Clavert ran 10.18 at 112 MPH and Stinnett ran 10.11 at 117 MPH in the 2nd round. At these times they should be at about 130 MPH... Oh yea, they are 9 second cars and they could have qualified much better.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:42 AM   #5
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Just like NHRA was worried about the dyno on '97 '98 firebirds when they came out a runnin' over a second under and 1.35 60 foots.I was there running D against NHRA s' "offical"car,........suck it up or go back to JR.stock.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:05 PM   #6
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Bart,
Thanks for your advice, but this isn't a suck it up issue.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:19 PM   #7
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If they become that fast,they'll disapear from A and AA,and as I stated,NHRA will take a long time!....Ford Mustang ....."official car of the year"???
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