Mustang MPH?

[Tim Kish]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I still can't believe the debate is as much about the HP factor than the fact Ford does not build a Mustang with a supercharged 5.4L engine in it. Shelby does and that is a different manufacturer and what Shelby offers is a much heavier car. This Mustang is a factory built race car not sold for public highways and is therefore a factory produced super stocker by every tradition and past example in NHRA history.
But then again I see the "Thunderbolt" 427 / 425 Fairlane is legal for Stock Eliminator. When did that happen? That's another "off highway use" vehicle. But the Hemi Dart / Barracuda & 1969 AMX SS package are still Superstock only classifications.
I'd just like to see some uniformity...

Jeff - we've been over this before, I even posted production numbers. 5.4L supercharged Mustangs are built by Ford on the same assembly line as every other Mustang they produce. As uninformed as your average Ford dealer is they even know what motor comes in a GT500 (5.4L Supercharged) and where its built (Ford Vehicle Assembly- Dearborn Michigan), says so right on the window sticker.

[Bob Pagano]

There are no new Cobra Jet car's listed in stock for Gainsville

[Bruce Noland]

Tim,

I don't know jack about Mopar products. But I do understand how much you would like to deflect attention away from the actual numbers for the CJ which you refuse to offer.

The CJ waltzing into Stock is the true absurdity. Not whether we think it should take you 20 years to make the CJ fast. We all know how you did that. How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them?

[Tim Kish]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Tim,

I don't know jack about Mopar products. But I do understand how much you would like to deflect attention away from the actual numbers for the CJ which you refuse to offer.

The CJ waltzing into Stock is the true absurdity. Not whether we think it should take you 20 years to make the CJ fast. We all know how you did that. How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them?

Not deflecting - looking for equal time. Just as unfair that those cars aren't competitive due to incorrect factoring.

The monster HP numbers you are assuming this motor can make will require a pulley change and a bigger throttle body (neither are stock eliminator legal).


Thanks Blue Oval Ralph for the correction - fact remains they are regular Ford production vehicles.

[Bruce Noland]

Tim,

That's really nice that you are concerned about the Mopar guys.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm posting what the Ford guys told me. I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks.

Thanks

[Frank Bialas]

[QUOTE=Bruce Noland;107808]

That's really nice that you are concerned about the Mopar guys.

BTW - no response from you regarding the Hemi's? Don't wanna bring that up as it doesn't benefit your cause?

Glad someone remembers the bashing received by the HEMI and what about the 440-6pak now rated at 417HP. What I want to say is it's sad when a combination is rated so high that it no longer can compete and slowly disappears, lots of really neat cars get parked when this happens. It may take a long time to reel in this new combo, unless someone let's it happen! And the present system can only work as well as the information [#'s] it's fed. I feel the pain and won't be going into A/SA till some adjustments are made.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them?

Bruce,

If you read back over several of the Ford guys posts I think that you will see that they believe that a loophole exists in regards to pulley size. From what I understand, that loophole does not exist, so the stock pullies put a true limit to the HP potential of these motors. Keep in mind too, that a F/I motor will not respond as well to a lot of the normal stocker enhancements as a N/A motor will.

Why not give this a little time?

Daren

[bigshow2966]

Here's a legitimate suggestion for you guys that think the Mustang is factored soft.

Sit down and get your FACTS together as to why you believe the way you do. Submit them in a letter to Glendora. If you have solid evidence and don't merely write some emotional piece of tripe as to why you are getting screwed, maybe, just maybe, they'll add some HP to the Fords.

I have seen it work before. Just remember to stick with FACTS.

[Bruce Noland]

Big Show,

Actually that is nhra's job, but they have no facts about this car. Mostly because the FRP folks don't want nhra to know about the real numbers on the CJ motor. A 9.78 on their second effort might set off a few alarms.

[Bruce Noland]

Gump,

I'm guilty of reading and responding to the last post before I saw you post.

Sure, they have all the time in the world now. They nearly slipped one by us but we caught it in time and all we can do now is wait for the numbers to come rolling in.

I understand one of these motors may make it to a dyno soon. So they have all the time in the world or until nhra folds which ever comes first.