My First Look at the CJ's

Bruce Noland · 03-13-2009, 04:38 PM

There really would be no need to "save" Stock if it had not been run into the ground by nhra. Yes, these new cars are neat and they will usher in a new theme for Stock. But nhra did not have to demolish what was left of the existing structure to "save" Stock. I have heard the new Mopar cars can make AA to I classes.

The old cars are on their way out and the new and improved Stock will soon feature $100,000.00 "Stock" packages. Most of the older cars will be running over at IHRA if they don't lose their heads over these new cars.

Dale Shannon · 03-13-2009, 05:30 PM

Yo Ken go get em, I would like to know one thing everybody worrys about getting beat on a heads up run in the elim how many times will that really happen in a season? How many times have you been beat by a bogus car 5 ths. under that has never been apart by NHRA? I would bet there are more bogus cars that can't run a second under than the fast ones everybody talk about. Is it ok to get beat by them? I also saw a post on here that a 427 chev it away won't make 700hp well your wrong folks, I think you know where it is to ken, but thats a story for another day.

Dale Shannon

Ken Miele · 03-13-2009, 05:47 PM

Hey Dale,

Sometimes I need to vent, and this was the time. I know that 427 very well, and it does make that kind of power. I here it will be ready for e-town. Class will sure be interesting. There is also a new CJ in the northeast. it should be out soon.

Earle Holt · 03-13-2009, 06:00 PM

The old cars are on their way out? Didn't Bruce's car just get refactored for being too fast within the last two -years? Not bad for a 35+ year-old car!

Look, the argument of new cars being under/over factored has been around since factoring began. You can't just stick your head in the sand and not let new cars into the class.

Bruce Noland · 03-13-2009, 06:21 PM

Dale,
That 427 does not make 700 Horsepower.

Earle,
I got my horsepower the old fashioned way. I earned it!

Earle Holt · 03-13-2009, 06:31 PM

I understand that you worked for years on that combo, but whether you earn it or not, cars still get refactored if they go "too fast." The same concerns were there when the new Firebirds came out and over time they have been brought into line.

Alan Roehrich · 03-13-2009, 06:27 PM

No 427/425 Chevrolet will make 700HP on an honest dyno. If it would, a 427/425 powered car could run at least 9.75 at sea level in A trim. I've seen some fast 427/425 powered cars, but I've never seen one run 9.75 or faster at sea level in A trim.

Stock may need some help, but if you think that the manufacturers are coming to the rescue with altruistic notions in their head, you're sure to be terribly disappointed. They'll bring money alright, and maybe a little attention. Along with plenty of B.S., games, and politics. It'll be everything Stock does not need.

Dale Shannon · 03-13-2009, 06:39 PM

Hey Bruce not to get in a pissing contest with ya, just saying what I here and SEE! I guess we will just wait and see in the near furture. But remember I told you soo. Why has no one commented about getting beat by a bogus slow car?

DaleShannon

Alan Roehrich · 03-13-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Hey Bruce not to get in a pissing contest with ya, just saying what I here and SEE! I guess we will just wait and see in the near furture. But remember I told you soo. Why has no one commented about getting beat by a bogus slow car?

DaleShannon

So, this is supposedly a legal iron head 427/425 on an honest dyno?

Dale Shannon · 03-13-2009, 07:07 PM

Alan, yes and yes, still nobody says its ok to get beat by a bogus slow car.

Dale Shannon

03-13-2009, 04:38 PM	#1
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's There really would be no need to "save" Stock if it had not been run into the ground by nhra. Yes, these new cars are neat and they will usher in a new theme for Stock. But nhra did not have to demolish what was left of the existing structure to "save" Stock. I have heard the new Mopar cars can make AA to I classes. The old cars are on their way out and the new and improved Stock will soon feature $100,000.00 "Stock" packages. Most of the older cars will be running over at IHRA if they don't lose their heads over these new cars. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-13-2009, 05:30 PM	#2
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Yo Ken go get em, I would like to know one thing everybody worrys about getting beat on a heads up run in the elim how many times will that really happen in a season? How many times have you been beat by a bogus car 5 ths. under that has never been apart by NHRA? I would bet there are more bogus cars that can't run a second under than the fast ones everybody talk about. Is it ok to get beat by them? I also saw a post on here that a 427 chev it away won't make 700hp well your wrong folks, I think you know where it is to ken, but thats a story for another day. Dale Shannon

03-13-2009, 05:47 PM	#3
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,544 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Hey Dale, Sometimes I need to vent, and this was the time. I know that 427 very well, and it does make that kind of power. I here it will be ready for e-town. Class will sure be interesting. There is also a new CJ in the northeast. it should be out soon.

03-13-2009, 06:00 PM	#4
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: My First Look at the CJ's The old cars are on their way out? Didn't Bruce's car just get refactored for being too fast within the last two -years? Not bad for a 35+ year-old car! Look, the argument of new cars being under/over factored has been around since factoring began. You can't just stick your head in the sand and not let new cars into the class. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

03-13-2009, 06:21 PM	#5
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Dale, That 427 does not make 700 Horsepower. Earle, I got my horsepower the old fashioned way. I earned it! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-13-2009, 06:31 PM	#6
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: My First Look at the CJ's I understand that you worked for years on that combo, but whether you earn it or not, cars still get refactored if they go "too fast." The same concerns were there when the new Firebirds came out and over time they have been brought into line. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

03-13-2009, 06:27 PM	#7
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,564 Liked 1,789 Times in 408 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's No 427/425 Chevrolet will make 700HP on an honest dyno. If it would, a 427/425 powered car could run at least 9.75 at sea level in A trim. I've seen some fast 427/425 powered cars, but I've never seen one run 9.75 or faster at sea level in A trim. Stock may need some help, but if you think that the manufacturers are coming to the rescue with altruistic notions in their head, you're sure to be terribly disappointed. They'll bring money alright, and maybe a little attention. Along with plenty of B.S., games, and politics. It'll be everything Stock does not need. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-13-2009, 06:39 PM	#8
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Hey Bruce not to get in a pissing contest with ya, just saying what I here and SEE! I guess we will just wait and see in the near furture. But remember I told you soo. Why has no one commented about getting beat by a bogus slow car? DaleShannon

03-13-2009, 07:07 PM	#10
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Alan, yes and yes, still nobody says its ok to get beat by a bogus slow car. Dale Shannon

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode