We need a new "instant" trigger!

[david ring]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

how about this.

1.400-1.424 under = 3.5%
1.425-1.449 under = 5%
1.450-1.474 under = 7%
1.475 under or more = 10%

or 1% for every .01 under 1.40

Chad's idea is really like what we have in comp-the amount of the adjustment depends on how far under a car runs-this strikes me what people are or should be looking for in adjusting soft combos. The only argument is the increments, say 1.400-1.429 = 3.55; 1.43-1.459 = 5%, well you get the idea, and that's why he added or 1% for every .01. You guys know stock really well and you ought to bring it either the SRAC or get the attention of tech people at NHRA. I'm still optimistic enough to think that if they'd be willing to change something if they can say it's what the racers wanted.

[ss3845]

You can make the trigger/penalty anything you want. The majority of the racers will just adjust to keep under it. Instead worrying about one guy and an odd ball combo you should be looking at the guys who make all their runs at -1.00 under and then get in the cic race and are going -1.25 - 1.40 under. Leaving the event with no run to make a trigger for the AHFS.

The AHFS is doomed to fail because the only incentive for going fast is that you will get HP. If the top 5 qualifiers got paid like the winner and R/U the current rules would have everything sorted out pretty quick. That sounds just as crazy as the AHFS.

[Mike Meier]

No disrespect meant to anyone, but instead of looking at it like "a 5% hit is 200 lbs or so" how about you just MOVE TO THE HIGHER CLASS!!! Then the only weight you need to move around are those little letters on your window!

Another deep thought brought to you by Zippy! Oh and hi Billy.

[Michael Beard]

There have been years of data compiled. Take all the data, do run completion on 1000' times, and compare everything to a -1.00 under baseline, and adjust *everybody's* HP once now, and be done with it. A ton of work once, and then just fine adjustments after that. How long has it taken to get HP factors even somewhat in line on some combinations using the AHFS? While people didn't like the politics of the pre-AHFS days, at least common sense *could* be applied.

[Billy Nees]

Dave, you've seen my fingers! They're kind of like these blunt objects sticking out of my hands and the I is right next to the O.

[Jack Matyas]

Billy -- Its starting to sound like you're making this personal -- its not -- at least for me -- I don't want sympathy from anyone ...........let alone you my friend .

[Blingmaster]

Billy You know i am a little older than some on this post so I have seen the changes I have come to the conclusion that this whole index thing is a joke at best......What happened to the performance based national records that were held in high esteem..GONE...In stead of index how about .50 over national records as index...any current national record holder gains instant entry into national events no grading points needed. no adjustment for altitude tracks the record is the index....all national record holders are exempt from hp hits....let the games begin.....Daryl

[Blingmaster]

Another cenario If like class cars compete say for class at indy no breakout but if they run under national record they become new record holder and have to tear down...even at a divisional meet they should seperate the cheaters form the legal cars...no sandbagging either make anational record mean something again.......D

[Bub Whitaker]

Originally Posted by Blingmaster

Billy You know i am a little older than some on this post so I have seen the changes I have come to the conclusion that this whole index thing is a joke at best......What happened to the performance based national records that were held in high esteem..GONE...In stead of index how about .50 over national records as index...any current national record holder gains instant entry into national events no grading points needed. no adjustment for altitude tracks the record is the index....all national record holders are exempt from hp hits....let the games begin.....Daryl

Thats how I raced MP back in te 70's, worked then... how bout they add weight to the combo thats too far under.. like the trigger is 115 under for Nat event so if the guy is 145 under, about 300 lbs should get him there...gravity is constant

[Bob Bender]

Originally Posted by Blingmaster

Billy You know i am a little older than some on this post so I have seen the changes I have come to the conclusion that this whole index thing is a joke at best......What happened to the performance based national records that were held in high esteem..GONE...In stead of index how about .50 over national records as index...any current national record holder gains instant entry into national events no grading points needed. no adjustment for altitude tracks the record is the index....all national record holders are exempt from hp hits....let the games begin.....Daryl

Sounds good !!!!!!!!!