We need a new "instant" trigger!

[Dick Butler]

Art, Good points about Cost. Much of that is the legalizing of so many things which were not even debated in the "Old Days" Cranks were Stock or teched that way. Heads were Stock or ..... I guess cost will never be contained in a class structure without tech . The high cost of AH is a wonderful example. The rules change at political pressure instead of technical pressure. Result new higher cost rebuilds. Problem is it is falling over into the other classes now. It probably self destruct due to constant rule changes and bending.
Could you support a "new " stock level class? Sealed motors? Spec motors etc to cut cost and level the fields. Do you value racing someone without the use of a breakout to make up for differences?

[art leong]

Dick. You can never go back. Look at the "fire storm" on here about the runner volumes. I agree with you about the rules being changed to allow more and more stuff. But that ain't going to change.
To keep people from spending more money than the next guy. The only thing that would work would be claimer races. And who would build a car, knowing that someone could come over and buy it? and how would you set prices?

[Alan Roehrich]

Nothing personal Billy, but lose the attitude. You posed a question, I told you what was necessary to create a solution as an answer. Don't like it? Prove it to be false, I'm willing to listen and learn. But what I will not do is tell anyone to simply pull a new "instant HP trigger" out of their favorite orifice and expect it to work. The problem with "solutions" that are not well thought out is that they tend to create more problems than they solve. What sort of solution are you looking for? One that actually works? Or one that makes someone "feel good" because they "did something" but creates another problem.

The fact is, a dozen or so have already been through this, at length, and in detail. There is no simple single change solution, and most of those suggested will make a bad problem worse. If you want something quick, easy, and simple, and you do not care whether it works or not, by all means, pick a number that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy and go with it.

[X-TECH MAN]

You all should re-read Jack McCarthy's post and think about it. NOTHING automatic will ever work.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

You all should re-read Jack McCarthy's post and think about it. NOTHING automatic will ever work.

Terry, statistical process controls, such as they use in industry, properly applied, with good data, can work.

As far as getting people involved, you have several issues there. The biggest of which is who at Glendora do you think is capable of properly managing, and can be trusted with the power of, the system? Further, who do you think Glendora will allow you to choose?

[Michael Beard]

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Terry, statistical process controls, such as they use in industry, properly applied, with good data, can work.

As far as getting people involved, you have several issues there. The biggest of which is who at Glendora do you think is capable of properly managing, and can be trusted with the power of, the system? Further, who do you think Glendora will allow you to choose?

To my knowledge there is no one in Glendora who could be trusted or has the knowledge or desire to oversee Stock and S/S nor is there anyone Glendora would allow to do it for them. Most of the names listed have "Issues" with NHRA already.....LOL. The board would require at a minimum 3 people who no longer race themselves and have a lot of background in Stock and S/S. Names such as Westly, Bruce, ex tech guys like that and older racers who dont have agendas and egos such as someone like Woodro, Keener, etc. But then again why would they want to be involved in a thankless job like that? Its not easy to keep track of all of that stuff and the Associations dont want to pay to have it done.

[Larry Munk]

Michael, I'll take 2 please