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Old 03-30-2009, 08:36 PM   #1
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Gary don't forget about Dave Baumhefners Nova in division 5 as well. Dave's was I believe a 71' 350 270HP? Can't remember for sure. That car hasn't been around since about 2000. I think your correct about Steve's being a 350 as well. Keith did have great success driving them as well. He also ran his B/SA Nova in superstock a couple times as well.

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Old 03-31-2009, 05:42 PM   #2
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Gary don't forget about Dave Baumhefners Nova in division 5 as well. Dave's was I believe a 71' 350 270HP? Can't remember for sure. That car hasn't been around since about 2000. I think your correct about Steve's being a 350 as well. Keith did have great success driving them as well. He also ran his B/SA Nova in superstock a couple times as well.

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You got me Rick...I did forget, but sure enjoyed watching Dave's Nova too...I thought those cars made great SS'ers, and if I could afford one, that would be a Chevy body I'd want to have for a second race car! Since there were so many Camaros around, I often rooted for the Nova's to win any time they had to race each other....those were the days.....
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:17 PM   #3
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I realize this is a bit dated, but at the 1977 US Nationals, John Dawley Jr. was SS/L Class Championship with a '68 small block Nova.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #4
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The Nova has more rear over hang , less front overhang , and a higher center of gravity . Is the Aerodynamics of the 68 to 72 Nova really any worse than a 66 to 67 Nova or a 65 Nova ? I would like to hear some thoughts on that . Al
Al, far be it for me to say, but I always thought that since the 68-72 Novas had the extra rear over-hang (plus the shorter front overhang), that they'd be more desireable for traction purposes than the Camaros of that vintage---besides, the swoopy style from the roof to the trunk I thought gave them the aero edge over the more boxy look of the Camaro...they'd sure get my vote, and since I owned/raced Pontiac's version of that car (the Ventura), to my first and only (so far) divisional championship (1981 Div. V Street), I have fond memories of that car/body style...I wish I would've kept that car, and made a stocker out of it--it possibly could've been something between an L/SA, and a N/SA with the Pontiac 350V8, Turbo 350 auto, and 2bbl carb???

As someone else mentioned in an earlier post, I think the addition of the GT classes, and the modern day FI cars became the beginning of the end of them in SS...but why not the Camaros too??? Perhaps there's 350-427 reasons they're still popular....especially the BA & CA ones???
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Just saw Steve Koppiens Nova...I rest my case as to why I think they're better SS'ers than Camaros---narrower body, the hatchback look, and the same suspension/chassis type (leaf sprung rear, with the uni-body chassis, that had subframe connectors attached to handle the rigors of racing--especially part-time on two wheels...as Bob Frey would say, WAY UP THERE ON THE "COOL O METER", or "COOLOMETER"!!!
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Hi Al,

Sorry it took so long to reply back to your post of mid-April, but with me not having the funds to race this year, I've been a bit lax in checking this site out...however, the one race I was able to enjoy so far this year was around the same time (April 13th), as your last two posts, so that helped...

I'm sure I saw the photo of your car, and it's right up there on the Coolometer as those others we both spoke of here in this thread are/were!!! I hope to see a photo of that Pontiac Ventura S/S car you spoke of, because that would surely let me know the potential my former Ventura had...

Did you notice that Steve Berlau had his 68 Nova SS/GA car last month in Denver at the LODRS 5-3 race? In spite of the fact that he hasn't been racing much (at least on this level recently), he still qualified 13th (out of 27 total cars), with a 1.050 under 10.65 on the altitude adjusted 11.70 index...that's pretty cool don't you think???
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:05 PM   #7
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Paul Berg in Div 2 used to mess around with a friends 68 327/325 Nova. Never seriously run as a stocker but its the only one Ive ever seen. Its a 327/350 motor only with a Q-jet on it, back in the 7 inch tire days. I think it might have a lot of potential if its still around. It had Grasspower on the side if my memory is correct. Paul runs his brothers I/S 81 Camaro now after a 35 year vacation from racing. Sorry I guess its called a Chevy 11 back then and its rated at 300 hp now

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Old 07-20-2009, 08:00 PM   #8
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Bill Rink qualified 12th at Madison with a 11.14 there is a picture of his car on page 53 of the May 22nd Dragster . I saw that Steve Berlau had his car back out . I think I saw it on Drag Race Central when I checked qualifying .
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Your car was sweet, and belated congrats on that win you garnered out there from back then ! I saw your car with the kind of slicks I relate with Super Stock Eliminator, then I go to Auto Imagery and see Bill's '74 Ventura (GTO?), both in Stock trim, and in Super Stock. Wow what a difference changing from one to the other makes---the earlier photos of his car as a stocker show him with an 11.61 on his windshield/side glass, but as a SS car, he's shown with an 11.08 dial-in on photo #95 of 102!!! Moreover, he had some decent wheelstands as a stocker, but those stocker sized slicks with super stock power...wow, he darn near needs wheelie bars on that thing!!!

Thus more reason's why I wish I would've kept my '73 Ventura, but I'd have had to spend a lot of time & money on body work, because mine had dents, and scratches (if not chipped paint), all around it. It definitely was no looker (like your car was and Bill's is), but it got me my first divisional championship so it couldn't be all bad??? That car and/or my '76 Vega I wish I had back, because the challenge of running them would be big, and not many people are racing Pontiac 350 V8's (espcially with a 2bbl carb), compared to all of the other engines out there...let alone a 140c.i. 2bbl 4cyl Turbo 250 Vega??? However, those two cars were my two winningest cars to date!!! Thanks for your insight, and Bills Ventura bringing back some good memories of mine...pictures of my car were found, but since it wasn't a Stock/Super Stocker, that's why you don't see it on this thread....
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