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Old 04-10-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
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Ken,
Please don't toss me off for this post. You make quite a few good points. There are always those with half full or others with half empty glasses. In your last post you made the point that you look out for your own finances. That is understandable, we all do if we are responsible. NHRA is looking out for themselves. In your case I can see you have no other choice than be a supporter of what NHRA does. I can see very clearly that taking the wrong side could have a negative impact on this forum, in many ways. The big deal to me is they have no Love for us, only our pocketbooks. It shows by what most of America is doing in these hard times & what they choose to do. Point: Most every Friday night I stop by my (National Chain) Pizza place & get a medium 3 topping pizza for my wife & myself. That is our Friday night meal I cook. :~) Until a few weeks ago it cost 14.95 for that meal. It has gone down in price by almost 1/3. It is not on special. The manager told me it was due to the economy & sagging sales. She also said most items on the menu have had a decrease in price. I apreciate that approach in hard times. As stated in other places on this forum there are other companies taking the lower price approach. Most business is taking the lower price business model for these hard times. I have a good friend that is a manager at one of our local Wal Marts. He told me today that their last months sales were up 1 1/2 percent, even with an overall 28 % lowering in prices. Just spend some time reading Wall Street reports & a few investments prospectus. It's pretty ovbious the leadership of NHRA went to a different business school. Most everything said in this debate, pro & con, has merit. Thanks for providing this forum where we can voice our opinions & debate issues.
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Old 04-11-2009, 07:13 AM   #2
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Mike, It maybe turn out to be a bad decision to raise the fees, time will tell. With all of the negative feedback on this forum they may listen, they may not. I can't begin to know what it takes to run an organization the size if NHRA.

Adger, I do not remove posts or thread because they have a different opinion then mine. If that were the case, half the threads would be gone. You have a right to your opinion and I respect that. I do not agree with they way some members view NHRA, but as long as members stay relatively civil and respect the rules it is fine with me.

Passing judgment on NHRA without knowing all the facts is a mistake in my opinion.

This forum has opened my eyes when dealing with a larger number of members. There are no membership fees on Class Racer, we offer free classifieds and free forums for associations along with lots of features for the members to enjoy. Yet there are members that are not happy with the way I run the site. Most complaints are with the classifieds, but others have problems with the site in general.

I receive letters calling me the worst names you can imagine. I charge no fee and people are still not happy. Thankfully it is a very small percentage, but I wanted to point out you can never make everyone happy all the time.

I know i'm the minority about NHRA. I have had issues with NHRA, but its not enough to make me stay away. There is to many good things about the sport that overrides the bad.
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Old 04-11-2009, 07:33 AM   #3
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Mike, It maybe turn out to be a bad decision to raise the fees, time will tell. With all of the negative feedback on this forum they may listen, they may not. I can't begin to know what it takes to run an organization the size if NHRA.

Adger, I do not remove posts or thread because they have a different opinion then mine. If that were the case, half the threads would be gone. You have a right to your opinion and I respect that. I do not agree with they way some members view NHRA, but as long as members stay relatively civil and respect the rules it is fine with me.

Passing judgment on NHRA without knowing all the facts is a mistake in my opinion.

This forum has opened my eyes when dealing with a larger number of members. There are no membership fees on Class Racer, we offer free classifieds and free forums for associations along with lots of features for the members to enjoy. Yet there are members that are not happy with the way I run the site. Most complaints are with the classifieds, but other have problems with the site in general.

I receive letters calling me the worst names you can imagine. I charge no fee and people are still not happy. Thankfully it is a very small percentage, but I wanted to point out you can never make everyone happy all the time.

I know in the minority about NHRA. I have had issues with NHRA, but its not enough to make me stay away. There is to many good things about the sport that overrides the bad.
Ken , i thank you for the right to read and post Jim Hanig
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Old 04-11-2009, 07:49 AM   #4
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Dan,

There is less then 1% of sportsman's racers that make a living with NHRA.

I can not see how the comparisons you have made relate to a hobby for the other 99%.

I do not see it as black and white. I see it as a hobby for most, and if NHRA makes the hobby less enjoyable then they need to move on.

In your case you do have a point, but I'm sure you know people that have left there job situation because they were not happy with it, even if they have invested allot time with them.

Voice your opinion, I have no problem with that, I'm just voicing mine.

Jim, uhhhhh what?
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:33 AM   #5
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Keno,

the analogies I've drawn have absolutley nothing to do with NHRA being a hobby or a profession. Zero. They speak to being involved with a given set of circumstances that one is unhappy with and what to do about it. I choose to put forth an effort to improve conditions, no matter what situation I'm involved with, as opposed to just walking away without being heard.
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:47 AM   #6
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JDG71, Wow, you sure told me, no come back for that one.

Dan, I wish you luck with you effort.

Being a rich a$$hole I find myself counting all my money these days and don't have time for the good fight.
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:51 AM   #7
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Billy, I have failed at many businesses, if Class Racer dies so be it. I will survive. If I have a warm place to live, food in my stomach and cloths on my back, life is good. Racing is for my enjoyment, but it is not a necessity.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:04 AM   #8
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JDG71, I have no idea who you are, but unlike you I have no animosity towards you. You insult me because you do not agree with my position. I'm the minority here. Most believe as you do, but I do not insult other members as you feel you should.

Its is easy to stand for something that everyone agrees on. I will not let your insults change my opinion.

You keep posting your hate for people that may not see it your way. NHRA is were I will race and if you feel you need to move on, I repect that.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:09 AM   #9
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JDG71, Wow, you sure told me, no come back for that one.

Dan, I wish you luck with you effort.

Being a rich a$$hole I find myself counting all my money these days and don't have time for the good fight.
Ken,

I heard that you are so fantastically rich that you often have your car flown to the track to race and have the requisite tall beautiful blondes as your pit crew. I just wanted to talk to you about some swamp....er... land I have for sale down here in FL. LOL!

What a collection of idiots, having money doesn't make a difference it's how bad do you want to race...if you don't like what the NHRA has done, go race with the IHRA, if you don't like them the bracket race and make more money than if you won an NHRA race, or nostalgia race and have fun...the object is to race and I don't believe any of you have a contract with the NHRA that doesn't allow you to race elsewhere .
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:04 AM   #10
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now let's see-------------I have lost some of my customers and my $$$$$$ comming in is down---------hmmmmmmmmm I know what to do charge the customers I still have twice the money---------Problem fixed what's next? Kenny----maybe it's supply and demand like the oil companies.
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