A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class

[Harry 6674]

Toyota screws up every racing venue they get involved in so I don't think we need them. I really don't believe toyota would invest any money so we could rip their engines out and put american power in their car. They would take that as a slap in the face of the rising sun. By the way the factory in Kentucky in not a member of the UAW. Probably not union at all don't know, don't care, will never own a jap car. They may employ a few americans in their factories here but the big money goes back home. Just my opinion but how about keeping SS traditional and sending the rest back to comp where they belong. I would be interested in that.

[Don Kennedy]

Harry: Do you have any facts to back up your comments? Or is this just an observation on your part? Which could be true?who knows?

[Don Kennedy]

Steve Williams said "You are not all there and your posts in this thread show that. Non USA cars in Stock and Super Stock. Give me a break. Do you know anything about these cars? Do you know anybody that does that can tech them? You are absolutely lost. Just my opinion-but for a long time Pontiac racer to say what you said you have lost your mind. I thought better of you than that. I don't anticipate posting on this thread any further as this thread takes the cake for talking out your rear end.

Steve

A long time fan of you and your efforts. Not anymore....

Steve Chill this is not a big deal at all just a very simple request to offer more options for Racers and NHRA , all I am advocating is to let the racers use other body styles in Super Stock GT classes only very simple idea
I have not gone over to the other side yet

[Dick Butler]

Don, I see your comment about " not diluting the classes". I accept that statement for motor combinations but how about the chassis mods to fit a small block, a big block a hood clearance? The simpler the better would help our racing but that ship sailed with old cars new motors and the continual added combos each year....

[Don Kennedy]

Not 100% sure these weights are correct but ?

Mustang GT500 3,920lb
Camaro SS 3,860lb
Challenger SRT8 4,140lb
Toyota Solara 3,200 lbs

[/IMG] Looks like the new Pro Stock and Super Stock future to me ,hey Toyota is already involved with NHRA with a funny car

[Don Kennedy]

Ok let all address the Pro Stockers ,

let see NHRA can go to Pontiac opps there are no longer around ,

ok they can go to Chrysler opps they are just about done in the performance end maybe,

ok we can go to Chevy opps those cars are well ok but I suspect they will be done also soon ,

ok we can go to Ford for the Pro stockers ,hmm interesting but I suspect their bottom line is not going to be good soon,

ok lets go to Toyota hmm looks ok to me they have the cars and just maybe this would be a good
time to get more involved with advertising their models and use all the coatails of the past advertising in Pro Stock to get their product before the public .

oh where will Pro Stock Go Mustangs ?????

anyone got any new ideas ???

[herbjr]

As a former track operator who also races S and SS something needs to be done. I didnt race for 8 years adn when I came back I was still the young guy in the lanes at 36. I was obviously young at 28 as well. The more "we" bitch as races the less NH and IHRA will want us. I have been on both sides of the fence so I know what I'm talking about. My son will be 16 soon and I am fixing him a stocker and a SS car to race. I just hope he can race and see how it was done when his granddaddy was around. Besides I figure a Stocker and SS car is cheaper than rehab somewhere and i know where he is all the time.


Herb McCandless Jr

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Harry: Do you have any facts to back up your comments? Or is this just an observation on your part? Which could be true?who knows?

The last I was aware the only UAW toyota plant in the U.S. is the NUMMI plant in Fremont Calif. where they build the Corolla and the Tacoma in conjunction with GM. As far as the rest of my comments they are just my opinions but I don't think they did nascar much good except bring more money which ain't a bad thing but they want to rule the whole show and they will spend the money it takes. But it does give me someone to root against.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Harry: Do you have any facts to back up your comments? Or is this just an observation on your part? Which could be true?who knows?

Don,

I don't know if Harry has facts to back up his statements about imported cars and their effects on other racing circuits, but since I do know that Honda has essentially taken over Indy Car racing, and Nascar has become Toyota's home base, I hope that NHRA will do as the "Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers" song suggested..."I'M GONNA STAND MY GROUND, AND I WON'T BACK DOWN"!!! BTW, I like and agree with Harry's thoughts on the matter no matter what....

That brings to mind another thing that I wish I could've won part of that mega million lottery for from last year...to become a big enough invester into either GM, or Chrysler to make them stop building any part of any of their products in foreign countries, and bring all of those parts, engine, tranny programs back to the USA...WHERE THEY BELONG...IMAGINE THAT, AN 85-100% AMERICAN-MADE CAR, like the cars were when I/we were kids, if not young adults!!!

I'm still waiting to hear that our president is going to get after our car makers to make them start building the vehicles that we want/need here in our country....including the major component parts as well!!!