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Old 05-04-2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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We apologize for the delay in getting back to you and we appreciate your email and acknowledge your disappointment in the recent announcement. NHRA has seen a dramatic increase in legal costs, insurance costs, and operational costs over the last decade, yet most of these fees have not been raised in more than a decade. NHRA has made every effort to keep fees flat, despite these rising costs. Because of our commitment to sportsman racing, NHRA has funded these rising costs all these years but must pass a portion of these costs on to the sportsman racers.



We assure you that it was a very difficult decision to raise these fees. In most cases, it represents a $60 annual increase for an individual racer. When amortized over the length of an average schedule, the increase only equates to a few dollars more per event. We understand the economic times we are in as it has a direct impact on all areas of NHRA’s business and, as a result, led to the need to increase fees. These increases will assist us in being able to continue to provide premier racing programs at the national, divisional and local level.



Again, we appreciate your note and wanted you to know that it was read and acknowledged.



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Where's the part about passing on some of the costs to the Pro's, whose sponsor's can easily afford even massive amounts of price increases.

When are they going to pay their fair share?
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:38 PM   #2
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The dealership i work at did something of the same thing NHRA did to the sportsman racers..except it was cut backs....they cut back holiday pay to $100.00 a day didn't tell anyone happend on easter week...thne they cuy our traininng which is a 1 hour and 30 minute drive to charlotte from my house to a $100.00 a day instead of 8 hours like usual...cut free lunch on sat. and 401k matching % on checks alos said they were doing this to avoid layoffs...got a ltter in my check may 1 with all these details staiting it would be effective may 1st 2009....the ****ty part of this is thye cut our holiday pay on easter i had 2 days of school they paid me only 200.00 for 2 days and fired one tech...all before may 1st....everyone is getting the b/s from owners and mangers weither it is NHRA or your job...we are getting crapped on
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:41 PM   #3
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Problem is the Pro's pay nothing but get paid to qualify.
The sportsman insurance fee's for the National Events cover insurance costs for the entire event including the spectators.
If you ever have a crash and a claim good luck on collecting anything on the insurance you paid for.
It is only secondary and you get the usual and customary treatment and they don't pay.
They play hardball and tell you they will defend their practice to the full extent of the law.
In other words just try and sue us, we are bigger and have deeper pockets than you do and can drag it out for years.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:57 PM   #4
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In another thread, VMP gave out 60,000 "free" tickets so that they get spectators, I for one don't care if they show up or not. If they don't pay anything at the gate, they are not supporting the racer and it means the money is coming from else where. The racers are "bringing" in the show, NHRA and the facitlity that the race is being held could let up on the racer rather then the spectator. Yes, give the spectator a break, but to give away tickets and have the racers pull their full load is not reasonable. I'm sure that NHRA has this all figured out that the racers will take on all the expences because the racers have the big investments in their rigs and race cars. Food for thought or just pissing in the wind!

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Old 05-04-2009, 02:23 PM   #5
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..Brandon Peterson said


"..everyone is getting the b/s from owners and mangers weither it is NHRA or your job...we are getting crapped on "

I understand your frustration but my ? to you is

Do you still have a job??


As for NHRA I have NO sympathy!!!
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:30 PM   #6
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..Brandon Peterson said


"..everyone is getting the b/s from owners and mangers weither it is NHRA or your job...we are getting crapped on "

I understand your frustration but my ? to you is

Do you still have a job??


As for NHRA I have NO sympathy!!!
depends on what happens to chrysler but as of now yes i do.....but if you were here and saw how they spend their money espically upgrads on a freakin parking lot that had nothing wrong with it....then they trun right around after spending god knows what on that and say they are broke....to me its all b/s any way you look at it NHRA or whatever...but yes i havea job and im very thankful for it....
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:37 PM   #7
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In another thread, VMP gave out 60,000 "free" tickets so that they get spectators, I for one don't care if they show up or not. If they don't pay anything at the gate, they are not supporting the racer and it means the money is coming from else where. The racers are "bringing" in the show, NHRA and the facitlity that the race is being held could let up on the racer rather then the spectator. Yes, give the spectator a break, but to give away tickets and have the racers pull their full load is not reasonable. I'm sure that NHRA has this all figured out that the racers will take on all the expences because the racers have the big investments in their rigs and race cars. Food for thought or just pissing in the wind!

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Casey, It was a good deal for the fans and not a bad deal if you are a local and your Better Half could only make it on Free Pass Day so thanks to Raymond Skipper for coming up with a pass. And by the way VMP did make money for the prefered parking and if the Track makes a few Bucks maybe we'll still have a place to race. I'm pretty sure they make good bucks on the friday night TNT and the other Circus Acts they do so to turn a proffit on Divisional races isn't OK? It didn't cost us a dime to have spectators.
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Where's the part about passing on some of the costs to the Pro's, whose sponsor's can easily afford even massive amounts of price increases.

When are they going to pay their fair share?
I am definately not a fan of the pros but they in fact do pay.Not entry fees but they pay for S/Fage used by their equiptment at the races.They also kick back on merchandise sales.Remember when sportsmen racers could put up shirts for sale?NHRA is the benefactor for all aspects.I don't begrudge them from making a buck but just how much juice can you squeeze from an orange?

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I am definately not a fan of the pros but they in fact do pay.Not entry fees but they pay for S/Fage used by their equiptment at the races.They also kick back on merchandise sales.Remember when sportsmen racers could put up shirts for sale?NHRA is the benefactor for all aspects.I don't begrudge them from making a buck but just how much juice can you squeeze from an orange?

Ed F.

Maybe they can find a way to fine Sorenson for a liquid spill in St.Loo.
Ed,

Maybe they do pay, but they don't pay enough...at least not in comparison to us, and we don't have their mega budgets to work with...I'm living proof of that as this time last year I participated in 3div's, and one nat., plus one local race...as opposed to just going to the Pacific Sportsnats so far this year, and those price increases certainly aren't helping the matter one bit. Furthermore, to the guy in Div. 3 who said he hasn't noticed a dramatic change in car counts at races he's been to, you should've been out here at that race...all of the fields were dramatically smaller than their quotas allowed, and even smaller than last years race (with higher fuel prices)!!!

Last year 75 Stockers, this year 56...Last year 54 Super Stockers, this year 44...Last year 18 Comp. cars, this year 11...need I say more???

It kind of reminds me of the middle class tax payer as opposed to the wealthy people...I believe I heard it on the radio a couple months back...Warren Buffets receptionist pays more taxes than he does, and he's the boss!!?? Go figure....
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Ed,

Maybe they do pay, but they don't pay enough...at least not in comparison to us, and we don't have their mega budgets to work with...I'm living proof of that as this time last year I participated in 3div's, and one nat., plus one local race...as opposed to just going to the Pacific Sportsnats so far this year, and those price increases certainly aren't helping the matter one bit. Furthermore, to the guy in Div. 3 who said he hasn't noticed a dramatic change in car counts at races he's been to, you should've been out here at that race...all of the fields were dramatically smaller than their quotas allowed, and even smaller than last years race (with higher fuel prices)!!!

Last year 75 Stockers, this year 56...Last year 54 Super Stockers, this year 44...Last year 18 Comp. cars, this year 11...need I say more???

It kind of reminds me of the middle class tax payer as opposed to the wealthy people...I believe I heard it on the radio a couple months back...Warren Buffets receptionist pays more taxes than he does, and he's the boss!!?? Go figure....
You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

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