Ahfs

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Seems like the slower guys think the faster guys are faster just because they have more money. Won't help to work harder if you don't know how or what to work on or work at. First, don't throw it away on things that don't make you faster. If you need a tenth or more, an aluminium spool or titanium lug bolts won't get you there. You can walk around and see a lot of wasted money on many slower cars.

If you can't drive all the money in the world won't help you, or me. And I didn't say Stock. I said SS. I don't have a stocker, so don't care what they do there.

Ed,what affects SS affects S.We're all in the same boat.I realise this isn't a poor mans sport but going back to running off the index will kill S/SS.It's not 1968 anymore(unfortunately).
Even Dick Butler is silent about heads up.He gave his pitch and I think he realizes it is a thing of the past.

Ed

Jeeze,there's getting to be alot of Ed's on here lately.

[Lynn A McCarty]

Shouldnt we at least follow proper statistical methods according to Science? Our current method isnt statistically accurate. It is better than doing nothing but it has several errors built in. It isnt that hard to do it more accurately.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

Shouldnt we at least follow proper statistical methods according to Science? Our current method isnt statistically accurate. It is better than doing nothing but it has several errors built in. It isnt that hard to do it more accurately.

Lynn,you can read statistics till you're blue in the face,NHRA cannot and will not take the time to
administer an AHFS correctly.WE EXIST ONLY TO FUND NHRA'S PROGRAMS..PERIOD...........
Sorry for raising my voice.


Ed F.

[Jeff Lee]

I was only ten years old in 1970 but my understanding from those that raced in that era was S/SS racing was just about dead because of low turnouts; always been told due to running off records. Remember the loss of Stock and transformation to a pure stock creation in the early
'70's?
I've been fast in all the classes I've raced in Stock and I'm working on obtaining that level in SS. So I should be all for such an idea. But I know nothing would destroy S/SS faster than running off records.
This proposal is from either spectators that want to see blood or racers that believe they are capable of dominating.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I was only ten years old in 1970 but my understanding from those that raced in that era was S/SS racing was just about dead because of low turnouts; always been told due to running off records. Remember the loss of Stock and transformation to a pure stock creation in the early
'70's?
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Yeah, Div 4 points races used to only have 75 or 80 or so SS cars in 1970. Had 44 this last race at Ennis, looked like about that many at Memphis. I have only been trying to do this again the last two years, but I have not seen anywhere near 80 SS cars at a Div 4 race in that time.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Yeah, Div 4 points races used to only have 75 or 80 or so SS cars in 1970. Had 44 this last race at Ennis, looked like about that many at Memphis. I have only been trying to do this again the last two years, but I have not seen anywhere near 80 SS cars at a Div 4 race in that time.

Ed, the higher car count in 1970 is hardly suprising. Don`t forget, there was no S/C,S/G,or S/ST .90 classes back then. In 1970, most tracks had also never heard of "bracket racing" either. I know plenty of guys that used to be Stock or S/S racers that have switched to the "Super" classes in the past few decades.

[Rick Schilling]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

Shouldnt we at least follow proper statistical methods according to Science? Our current method isnt statistically accurate. It is better than doing nothing but it has several errors built in. It isnt that hard to do it more accurately.

I have been in and/or around drag racing since the late sixties when the handicap system was based on national records. The index system, in my opinion, is really a much better option for a number of reasons, (especially cost) but it really is overdue for some major refinement.

Nothing is perfect but the basic index concept is as fair to everyone as it's going to get. If you have the resources to go faster than everyone else, have at it. If you don't, you can still take part and have just as good of a chance at success (winning) as the next guy. Either way, nothing worth having is going to come easy.

[Lynn A McCarty]

Originally Posted by Rick Schilling

I have been in and/or around drag racing since the late sixties when the handicap system was based on national records. The index system, in my opinion, is really a much better option for a number of reasons, (especially cost) but it really is overdue for some major refinement.

Nothing is perfect but the basic index concept is as fair to everyone as it's going to get. If you have the resources to go faster than everyone else, have at it. If you don't, you can still take part and have just as good of a chance at success (winning) as the next guy. Either way, nothing worth having is going to come easy.

I agree Rick, however this has nothing to do with AHFS. If done right this can determine if the engine has the correct HP on it to start. The system right now keeps the fast engines artificially on top. Do you know how fast a combo has to be to average a second under? It tells a story all by itself.