No HP on the Sorenson combo?

[Jim Cimarolli]

I would say that if a racer looses an elimination round and he is not directed to go to the scales then he is not required to do so.

[George Fitzpatrick]

If it’s going to cost over 100LBS he should. That one run By Fred Made the Ebodys with a Hemi Extinct.

[George Fitzpatrick]

By the way Sorenson thought it, out and saved a lot racers weight.

[Chuck Beach]

I agree with you Jim, but if it is a run of 1.40 or more under and it will affect your HP rating then it should be mandatory to weigh and tear down regardless of whether you win or lose. (although not in the rule book) I think this whole thread has gotten off the topic of what really happened. I don't care if it was windy, I don't care if the scales were fluctuating, I don't care if your weather station said you were going to slow down, if you ran 1.391 under why would you take the chance of possibly going faster. I was not there but if water was indeed drained from the raditor or anyother item was removed from the car that was in the car during the run should have remained in the car when scaled (including the water). So tell me, does this set a rule of thumb for anyone that goes 1.40 under, take what you can out of the car (drain the water, drain the oil, drain the trans fluid, leave your jacket, helmet and pants with the car behind you) so that you are light and the run doesn't count? I would like to see someone get that by Bruce or Travis here in D3 ...

That is the biggest problem I have with NHRA is the inconsistancy across divisions.

[Jim Cimarolli]

I see your point Chuck.

[Jim Bailey]

.....If a man's mistakes determine what he was, then what he does about those mistakes determine what he is .......... If Sorenson's get no HP, then the right thing for NHRA to do is tell Fred Henson; we're sorry, we made a mistake, and remove the HP off the Hemi A body. Especially because the circumstances are so similar. If not, then Sorenson's get HP too. It's black and white. The only thing missing here is a little Gray Matter. JB

[Jeff Teuton]

Fred Henson has oficially protested his hp increase to me as the rep for Div 4. I will forward the proper stuff tomorrow to the power that be.

[Jeff Teuton]

Another precedent in Div 4 (as I mentioned in another post) is the fact that some racers (who shall remain unnamed) were running the last pass at a points race light just to see how hard they could run. The had already secured their place on the sheet. Craig Hutchinson made them take the last run and informed them if they continued such behavior, they would be disqualified. This was at Hallsville, TX some a few years ago.

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Another precedent in Div 4 (as I mentioned in another post) is the fact that some racers (who shall remain unnamed) were running the last pass at a points race light just to see how hard they could run. The had already secured their place on the sheet. Craig Hutchinson made them take the last run and informed them if they continued such behavior, they would be disqualified. This was at Hallsville, TX some a few years ago.

I am proud to say that I race in Division 3.I can't believe anything like this would happpen in our Division.
You are saying that a car would make a qualifying run and the car was light on weight?
THEN THE RUN WOULD COUNT???
I feel bad if somebody with a slow car like mine ended up with a HEADS UP run because the ladder changed due to this.This sounds totally ridiculous.
I don't think that any runs should count for qualifying when the car was light on weight.If it goes fast enough to get horsepower (even if it was light on weight),there should be a mandatory engine tear down.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Fred Henson has oficially protested his hp increase to me as the rep for Div 4. I will forward the proper stuff tomorrow to the power that be.

Good for him -- And the rest of us who "took" HP hits should do the same -- rules are for everyone -- believe me if I thought for a second that I could have drained my radiator and not taken a hit there would have been no choice to make -- but that "stuff" won't fly here in D1 -- and it should be the same everywhere .