Ahfs

Billy Nees · 05-08-2009, 06:02 AM

442 Olds, Jack has raced that car since before there was dirt so I think that you can safely say that he's attached to it probably like you are to your car and the man works his *** off on it and spends all but his "drinkin money" on it! Pick on him about something else.

442OLDS · 05-08-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

442 Olds, Jack has raced that car since before there was dirt so I think that you can safely say that he's attached to it probably like you are to your car and the man works his *** off on it and spends all but his "drinkin money" on it! Pick on him about something else.

If he spent his "drinkin money",would he be able to run 13.03 in U/SA?

Billy Nees · 05-08-2009, 10:32 AM

Probably but I won't spend MY "drinkin money" either!

Jack McCarthy · 05-08-2009, 12:55 PM

darryl,

bob shaw is the king of choosing the right combo
he does his homework, and does not cheat
i was impressed, and congratulated him on his impressive performance

with that said, i reiterate "THE AUTOMATIC HELP FOR SLUGS CANNOT AND WILL NOT EVER WORK" unless bob shaw is a complete idiot (and he is not) it would take i believe 5 more runs of -140 to get him to T/SA. we need a committee that is intelligent enough to look and say "geez, thats a 350cid olds motor, with bigger valves, similar camshaft, 500cfm fuel injection, maybe that 170 hp is a little soft compared to 283 215hp 415cfm carbs and 273's with what 200cfm carb (i know its tiny)" HMMM maybe it should be about 230hp ?????????

ahfs is only keeping us from having a better system... kill it NOW, and lower these stupid easy indexes about .50 while they are at it .

captain jack, -1.15 and still got enough drinking money too

any by the way -1.15 was an oops... i didnt mean to hit the trigger but i knew he was real late and i thought hey maybe i can get him some HP !!!

Smitty · 05-08-2009, 02:08 PM

Can someone please explain what the benefit of lowering the indexes by any amount is going to help? If you lower it want the cars still be the same distance apart? And if you lower the guys that are crushing the indexes combo will never get hit because that magic 1.40 will not be attaniable. I don't know of any combos that are that soft to a point where someone could still hit unless it was at a factored track.

Bob Bender · 05-09-2009, 03:46 AM

Take the HP and leave the index`s alone................

Lynn A McCarty · 05-09-2009, 10:47 AM

There are statistical clues on index corrections, too. GTAA is a good example. When several combinations are close to the bottom that is a major clue. This is the fault of the AHFS as it doesnt bear out the right numbers for corrections.

junior barns · 05-09-2009, 09:57 PM

God only knows the cost of good heads .Have a nice day
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Jack McCarthy · 05-11-2009, 12:06 PM

lynn, your quote about bad statistics..yeah it sucks because it seems like something is getting done but without 100% pure stats it is just wasting our time and keeping a good system from being impemented.

unfortunately you and i know you will never get 100% pure stats if we know the triggers

jack mccarthy

why lower indexes -.50 ? why not ? why should 90% of the cars in the country be -.80 or better ??
been since 1980's since they RAISED them, and anyone who cant run the index should take a local auto mechanics class.

05-08-2009, 06:02 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,687 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: Ahfs 442 Olds, Jack has raced that car since before there was dirt so I think that you can safely say that he's attached to it probably like you are to your car and the man works his *** off on it and spends all but his "drinkin money" on it! Pick on him about something else. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

05-08-2009, 10:32 AM	#3
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,687 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: Ahfs Probably but I won't spend MY "drinkin money" either! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

05-08-2009, 12:55 PM	#4
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,320 Likes: 28 Liked 463 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Ahfs darryl, bob shaw is the king of choosing the right combo he does his homework, and does not cheat i was impressed, and congratulated him on his impressive performance with that said, i reiterate "THE AUTOMATIC HELP FOR SLUGS CANNOT AND WILL NOT EVER WORK" unless bob shaw is a complete idiot (and he is not) it would take i believe 5 more runs of -140 to get him to T/SA. we need a committee that is intelligent enough to look and say "geez, thats a 350cid olds motor, with bigger valves, similar camshaft, 500cfm fuel injection, maybe that 170 hp is a little soft compared to 283 215hp 415cfm carbs and 273's with what 200cfm carb (i know its tiny)" HMMM maybe it should be about 230hp ????????? ahfs is only keeping us from having a better system... kill it NOW, and lower these stupid easy indexes about .50 while they are at it . captain jack, -1.15 and still got enough drinking money too any by the way -1.15 was an oops... i didnt mean to hit the trigger but i knew he was real late and i thought hey maybe i can get him some HP !!! __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

05-08-2009, 02:08 PM	#5
Smitty Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gibsonton, FL Posts: 267 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ahfs Can someone please explain what the benefit of lowering the indexes by any amount is going to help? If you lower it want the cars still be the same distance apart? And if you lower the guys that are crushing the indexes combo will never get hit because that magic 1.40 will not be attaniable. I don't know of any combos that are that soft to a point where someone could still hit unless it was at a factored track.

05-09-2009, 03:46 AM	#6
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,733 Likes: 1,596 Liked 459 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Ahfs Take the HP and leave the index`s alone................ __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

05-09-2009, 10:47 AM	#7
Lynn A McCarty Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Plainfield (INDY) Indiana Posts: 468 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Ahfs There are statistical clues on index corrections, too. GTAA is a good example. When several combinations are close to the bottom that is a major clue. This is the fault of the AHFS as it doesnt bear out the right numbers for corrections. __________________ Lynn A McCarty 3470 SS

05-09-2009, 09:57 PM	#8
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Ahfs God only knows the cost of good heads .Have a nice day __________________ Ed O'Brien 4191 STK PRICELESS!!!!!!!

05-11-2009, 12:06 PM	#9
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,320 Likes: 28 Liked 463 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Ahfs lynn, your quote about bad statistics..yeah it sucks because it seems like something is getting done but without 100% pure stats it is just wasting our time and keeping a good system from being impemented. unfortunately you and i know you will never get 100% pure stats if we know the triggers jack mccarthy why lower indexes -.50 ? why not ? why should 90% of the cars in the country be -.80 or better ?? been since 1980's since they RAISED them, and anyone who cant run the index should take a local auto mechanics class. __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

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