Whither the 425/427 decicion....

[herbjr]

For once I agree with Ed's post.

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Ed,

Isn't that Super Stock with little tires?

How about using the factory idle specs. You know, 600 rpm in drive. Wouldn't that make the tech line interesting?

[herbjr]

My dad got cussed back in 1980 by an employee of a sanctioning body when he told them "SPEED COST MONEY, HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO",


Dont tell me to work harder to make my car run faster, Mark is so right, work harder 9-5 to make more money to buy 35K worth of parts to put in my 15K stocker to be stupid fast. NOT FAST BUT STUPID FAST there is a difference.

For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE.


Just a thought, even though its a stupid one.

[RPinoski1]

When NHRA changed the rules so everyone was allowed take weight out to run at the top of the classs and at the same time lowered all the HP factors it messed everything related to factors up. Then they instituted the AHFS at the same time and even that is not correct because of the factored track runs....

So until they fix the ahfs I don't think anything will be fixed.

[Ed Fernandez]

For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE

Herb;
That problem arose at Indy last year.Some guys won class who weren't much under the .50 limit.With the new system guys who lost class and were way more than .50 under got in.Calling us a performance eliminator means different things to different people.Do you reward the class winners or the fastest runners?
I think the class winners should be in first ,like it used to be.


Ed

[X-TECH MAN]

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For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE.
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Now thats the best idea Ive heard lately ! Thats the way it used to be when I was running S/S and stock. I was class runner up at the 1978 Sports Nationals and I didnt get to run for the eliminator even though even though I was within .002 of winning class and we were both well under the index. That would sure get the AHFS in line in a hurry if they counted class runs.....LOL.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Now thats the best idea Ive heard lately ! Thats the way it used to be when I was running S/S and stock. I was class runner up at the 1978 Sports Nationals and I didnt get to run for the eliminator even though even though I was within .002 of winning class and we were both well under the index. That would sure get the AHFS in line in a hurry if they counted class runs.....LOL.

You nailed it. Count all runs and things would get fixed in a hurry. Or at least quicker than it is now. Force people to run all out to win and the AHFS has a better chance to work as intended. Use the incrementals also.

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by herbjr

My dad got cussed back in 1980 by an employee of a sanctioning body when he told them "SPEED COST MONEY, HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO",


For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE.


Just a thought, even though its a stupid one.

Herb,

Some very nice friends, a family I would never have met without drag racing, were running a Super Stocker and decided to build a IHRA Top Stock car. I quickly learned the difference between Class Racing with a possible heads up run and Heads Up - first to the finish line all the time racing. I've never seen $ go by so fast in all my life. (Not counting government of course...)

Taking your idea one step further, what if you let everyone run, but they just got handicapped off of the index rather than a dial in? I don't think half the cars would even enter the next event!

[herbjr]

Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

Taking your idea one step further, what if you let everyone run, but they just got handicapped off of the index rather than a dial in? I don't think half the cars would even enter the next event!

Index or Record, I remember that.

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Bobby
It is except the lift on the cam and the tires but what's out there now ? Yes there are a few that run fast with legit heads but I mean a few ! When they started pouring runners in Stock I've heard more lies than ever came out of Russ's mouth . Have a nice day

My point exactly Ed.

A few years back I was at Indy on Thurs/Fri and went to visit in the Barn during Stock teardown on Friday and started talking with a few gents I know. One car owner came up and yelled at me for looking at his engine while they were removing one set of head bolts. I was thinkin' "Hm, lets see, the port cannot be touched so there must be something I'm missing here." And then I noticed his ports not only matched the gaskets perfectly, they all seemed to be the same size!

And others such as Kenny with his Cobra Jet and Corda talked with us freely.

I may have some budget stuff laying around, but none of it matches the gasket at all. In fact none of my stuff has a port that is anywhere near as large as the gasket. (Hence why it is called a gasket right?) Maybe that's why GM has lost sales, their casting foundry has lost its touch? ;-)