Mustang Pro Stock?

hemicop · 05-31-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bigshow2966

P/S is pushrod motors only. No OHC allowed.

Okay, so they'll use an IHRA type P/S motor or do further R&D on Ford's new NASCAR engine, add a drag-race cam & a sheetmetal intake to it & there you have it! A high RPM, deep breathing, durable engine done at the expense of NASCAR with relativly little R&D required & a proven shortblock. I'm a Mopar fan but you really can't fault the game-plan.............

JHeath · 05-31-2009, 03:43 PM

I am not sure that is the game plan,Darin Morgan had a large part in designing the new head, which was funded privately,and will carry a Ford part number. Check the link below, not much of a Nascar connection.

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13028

bigshow2966 · 05-31-2009, 04:02 PM

From what I've seen also Ford is not investing a whole lot in this deal. Seems to be more Cunningham's baby.

hemicop · 05-31-2009, 07:19 PM

Lookiing at the "Speedtalk" thread, it looks like some of what I predicted is coming true.. Nothing really new there except there are a few new players. Old heads (refined) IHRA technology, Ford part numbers. Doesn't sound like anything a a rich Ford fanatic couldn't pull off with a little politic-ing and some time in a machine shop.
I'm glad it's happening--it's about time "they" statr putting realistic pieces in cars instead of one-off stuff presented as "stock"
Oh, I know the parts are rare & extremely expensive, but at least they're not ntouchable

RJ · 05-31-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemicop

Okay, so they'll use an IHRA type P/S motor or do further R&D on Ford's new NASCAR engine, add a drag-race cam & a sheetmetal intake to it & there you have it! A high RPM, deep breathing, durable engine done at the expense of NASCAR with relativly little R&D required & a proven shortblock. I'm a Mopar fan but you really can't fault the game-plan.............

Wow, I'm scratching my head and laughing at the same time wondering if you are for real? if so, you need to quit while you're behind. Neither scenario, as you attempted to describe it, is happening. The IHRA head/valvetrain are way to big and bulky. The new Ford NASCAR engine has 4.500" bore spacing, how are you going to get a 4.700" bore piston in that one with "relativly little R&D required"?

JHeath · 05-31-2009, 08:13 PM

Hemicop, IHRA Fords use a Boss 429 style head which is nothing like the new head being developed. In case you haven't noticed NHRA cars are 500 CI, IHRA cars are 815 CI, the only thing similar would the name on the valve covers.

hemicop · 06-01-2009, 04:33 AM

Simple --- shrink the specs of the old Boss or the old "465" (?) head, use the new Nascar block. The point I was trying to make is that with the new Nascar motor, which according to Hot Rod Magizine is already developed,all that's left is to develop a top-end which Ford has plenty of experience in P/S with both Hemi-type & wedge heads. I KNOW you couldn't simply do an R&R for the top-end of an IHRA motor. AGAIN, the point is, alot of the technolgy is already out there so they're not really developing a "new" motor

05-31-2009, 03:43 PM	#2
JHeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 786 Likes: 2,876 Liked 370 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Mustang Pro Stock? I am not sure that is the game plan,Darin Morgan had a large part in designing the new head, which was funded privately,and will carry a Ford part number. Check the link below, not much of a Nascar connection. http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13028 __________________ Jerry Heath I/S '93 Cobra FS/J 2010 Mustang "Ebay CJ"

05-31-2009, 04:02 PM	#3
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 653 Likes: 671 Liked 178 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Mustang Pro Stock? From what I've seen also Ford is not investing a whole lot in this deal. Seems to be more Cunningham's baby.

05-31-2009, 07:19 PM	#4
hemicop Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Mustang Pro Stock? Lookiing at the "Speedtalk" thread, it looks like some of what I predicted is coming true.. Nothing really new there except there are a few new players. Old heads (refined) IHRA technology, Ford part numbers. Doesn't sound like anything a a rich Ford fanatic couldn't pull off with a little politic-ing and some time in a machine shop. I'm glad it's happening--it's about time "they" statr putting realistic pieces in cars instead of one-off stuff presented as "stock" Oh, I know the parts are rare & extremely expensive, but at least they're not ntouchable

05-31-2009, 08:13 PM	#6
JHeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 786 Likes: 2,876 Liked 370 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Mustang Pro Stock? Hemicop, IHRA Fords use a Boss 429 style head which is nothing like the new head being developed. In case you haven't noticed NHRA cars are 500 CI, IHRA cars are 815 CI, the only thing similar would the name on the valve covers. __________________ Jerry Heath I/S '93 Cobra FS/J 2010 Mustang "Ebay CJ"

06-01-2009, 04:33 AM	#7
hemicop Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Mustang Pro Stock? Simple --- shrink the specs of the old Boss or the old "465" (?) head, use the new Nascar block. The point I was trying to make is that with the new Nascar motor, which according to Hot Rod Magizine is already developed,all that's left is to develop a top-end which Ford has plenty of experience in P/S with both Hemi-type & wedge heads. I KNOW you couldn't simply do an R&R for the top-end of an IHRA motor. AGAIN, the point is, alot of the technolgy is already out there so they're not really developing a "new" motor

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