AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

"In response to "fredjohnston" and Tom Dolan Joe took the following steps this afternoon at the Woodburn division 6 race today. After the tear down was complete the engine was sealed by a tech official, along with the motor mount bolts and the carburetor, it is sealed as a complete unit. At this same time the tech official took digital pictures of the engine being sealed."

Mr. Gaynor, the sealing of this motor at the D-6 race means absolutely nothing. I, like everyone else, can buy the sealer at any store and re-seal the motor. Put down a fast number at a National Event and take it completely apart the same day--immediately after the run. Do that and we've got a deal.

Looks to me that your mouth is bigger than your bank account.You just got owned my friend!

[Bill Edgeworth]

Tommy,

These guys obviously have no balls or money they are just big mouth keyboard whiners. Even if Joe and Hal AND the NHRA agreed to do it at a national event we all know these guys would come up with a new excuse not to put up the money.

[Tom Dolan]

Tommy,

I never offered any money to find out if he is legal, I'm just a trouble maker. I'm pointing out some interesting facts. If he got passed tear down that's fine with me. But getting by tear down for a record is not the same as getting torn down at Indy. As for sealing a motor, if you think that's a guarantee that you can't doing anything to a motor you are naive. You can get the sealer that NHRA uses very easily.

The bottom line is he has the record, but he never goes that fast at races where there is class. I think that is strange, don't you? If setting records and going fast is what they are all about, then why would you not want to show it at a class race?

[Tony Janes]

I think the Sorensens are smart about not going fast in class. Winning class is not worth the possible horsepower.

[SStockDart]

I'd pay to watch a match race with Sorensen and Bobby D...........

[Alan Roehrich]

A fast 427 Super Stock car runs low 9 teens at 144 in SS/DA, at the same weight break as AA/SA, but the SS factor is 435, not 425, like it is in Stock. The difference is approximately 5 tenths. And 7 MPH. Carrying 75 pounds more.

[novassdude]

So are all records not witnessed and motors checked by Ed and Fred bogus? Or is there a reason that they have such a problem with this car?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Alan
So how much do you think the average SS 427 would run ? I would think the 60ft would be a lot . Have a nice day

Ed, why is it you insist on comparing a FAST Stock Eliminator car to an AVERAGE Super Stock car? Other than it is the only way you can "prove" your bogus point. An average Stock Eliminator 427 car runs 9.90, and an average Super Stock 427 car runs about 9.30. So what?

That's the thing about you Ed, you can't seem to grasp success can come from dedication and hard work. In your world, consistently very low reaction times mean the driver cheats. And consistently quick ET's mean the engine builder cheats. That's your story Ed, everyone who is good, fast, or wins much is cheating.

Well Ed, are you going to call Bobby DeArmond and Gary McGlasson cheaters? Because they aren't far behind the Sorensons, if they are even behind them.

Here's the deal, the Sorensons have been flogging the exact same combination for years. Same as Bobby and Gary. They've got more time and effort invested in those two cars than you have in your life. It's sort of like the guys you think are cheating because they have real low reaction times and win races. They make more passes in a year than you make in a decade.

That's enough time wasted on you, Ed, I have better things to do. Joe and Hal have put us another tenth behind. So I need to get to work. See, that's how you figure out how to go fast, you work. They have the same combination we do, and they're faster. But I'm not going to accuse them of cheating. Instead, I'm going to go to work and try to figure out what they know that I don't, it's evidently a fair amount. But what the Hell, they only have a 15-20 year head start on us, like Bobby and Gary do. They know what doesn't work, they've had time to figure it out, and we haven't yet.

You cry and whine all you want Ed, the rest of us will go get to work and try to catch them the honest way, with hard work and dedication. Meanwhile you can accuse people of cheating, and see if you can get someone to listen. Most of the rest of us know better.

[Jim Wahl]

Alan, will you be at Atlanta and Silver Dollar? Jim

[L Peterson6261]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Ed, why is it you insist on comparing a FAST Stock Eliminator car to an AVERAGE Super Stock car? Other than it is the only way you can "prove" your bogus point. An average Stock Eliminator 427 car runs 9.90, and an average Super Stock 427 car runs about 9.30. So what?

That's the thing about you Ed, you can't seem to grasp success can come from dedication and hard work. In your world, consistently very low reaction times mean the driver cheats. And consistently quick ET's mean the engine builder cheats. That's your story Ed, everyone who is good, fast, or wins much is cheating.

Well Ed, are you going to call Bobby DeArmond and Gary McGlasson cheaters? Because they aren't far behind the Sorensons, if they are even behind them.

Here's the deal, the Sorensons have been flogging the exact same combination for years. Same as Bobby and Gary. They've got more time and effort invested in those two cars than you have in your life. It's sort of like the guys you think are cheating because they have real low reaction times and win races. They make more passes in a year than you make in a decade.

That's enough time wasted on you, Ed, I have better things to do. Joe and Hal have put us another tenth behind. So I need to get to work. See, that's how you figure out how to go fast, you work. They have the same combination we do, and they're faster. But I'm not going to accuse them of cheating. Instead, I'm going to go to work and try to figure out what they know that I don't, it's evidently a fair amount. But what the Hell, they only have a 15-20 year head start on us, like Bobby and Gary do. They know what doesn't work, they've had time to figure it out, and we haven't yet.

You cry and whine all you want Ed, the rest of us will go get to work and try to catch them the honest way, with hard work and dedication. Meanwhile you can accuse people of cheating, and see if you can get someone to listen. Most of the rest of us know better.

Alan,

You got it spot on!!!!