for real or BS

John Lang · 07-19-2009, 02:06 PM

Adger, As everybody said thats all BS, I was selling Chrysler -Plymouth& Dodges, from 1964 thru 1968, and can tell you the guys are right. One cast iron 4 bbl only !!!!!!!!!!!!!! John Lang

Jim Wahl · 07-19-2009, 02:37 PM

Yup! The BSometer is maxed out! My dad's Dodge dealership had one of the original D-Darts and I won my first trophy with it at age 15. Single four barrel only! A cast iron factory manifold as stated above. Jim

W J · 07-19-2009, 08:07 PM

Are there any 273/235 hp Ply. Valiants or Barracudas still out there running Stock? Back in the day, a friend ordered a 273/235 Formula S '64 Valiant convertible...4sp, 3.90 sure-grip, Goodyear Blue Streak tires, dk. green w/blk top---a real nice rare little car that went real good....Anyone still campaigning any of these cars??

WJ

bill dedman · 07-19-2009, 11:43 PM

Bill Bushmaker ("WILLY B" Div. VI long-time MoPar racer) has built a '65 Valiant for his daughter, Angela .

It's a K/SA car that has been running for a couple of years, now. It usually qualifies somewhere in the middle of the pack. I think NHRA lowered the factor on that 235 OEM-rated engine to 210 horsepower back on 6/30/08, making it a natural "J" car, but she runs it in K/SA. She ran it at the national event in Kent this weekend.

It'a a red, '65 Valiant 2-door sedan. I love those cars... Kudos to Bill and Angela for campaigning such an unusual car!

Jeff Lee · 07-20-2009, 01:01 AM

Paul Wong has a stick version.

W J · 07-20-2009, 05:55 AM

My friend's little Formula S, 4sp Valiant convert was the 1st and last I've ever seen....Thought it was a '64, but could've been a '65....I can remember at least 2 of the Valiant 2 dr sedan 235 hp cars that ran the old (and now gone) Div. 1 tracks in New England area. Very cool and very rare little cars...Thanks both Bill and Jeff...

WJ

bill dedman · 07-21-2009, 12:25 PM

I don't think the "Commando" 235HP motor was available in a Valiant in 1964. It's not in the Classification guide for '64 for the Valiant. '65 is OK.

07-19-2009, 02:06 PM	#1
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: for real or BS Adger, As everybody said thats all BS, I was selling Chrysler -Plymouth& Dodges, from 1964 thru 1968, and can tell you the guys are right. One cast iron 4 bbl only !!!!!!!!!!!!!! John Lang __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

07-19-2009, 02:37 PM	#2
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 668 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: for real or BS Yup! The BSometer is maxed out! My dad's Dodge dealership had one of the original D-Darts and I won my first trophy with it at age 15. Single four barrel only! A cast iron factory manifold as stated above. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-19-2009, 08:07 PM	#3
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: for real or BS Are there any 273/235 hp Ply. Valiants or Barracudas still out there running Stock? Back in the day, a friend ordered a 273/235 Formula S '64 Valiant convertible...4sp, 3.90 sure-grip, Goodyear Blue Streak tires, dk. green w/blk top---a real nice rare little car that went real good....Anyone still campaigning any of these cars?? WJ

07-19-2009, 11:43 PM	#4
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: for real or BS Bill Bushmaker ("WILLY B" Div. VI long-time MoPar racer) has built a '65 Valiant for his daughter, Angela . It's a K/SA car that has been running for a couple of years, now. It usually qualifies somewhere in the middle of the pack. I think NHRA lowered the factor on that 235 OEM-rated engine to 210 horsepower back on 6/30/08, making it a natural "J" car, but she runs it in K/SA. She ran it at the national event in Kent this weekend. It'a a red, '65 Valiant 2-door sedan. I love those cars... Kudos to Bill and Angela for campaigning such an unusual car! Attached Images __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 07-19-2009 at 11:46 PM.

07-20-2009, 01:01 AM	#5
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: for real or BS Paul Wong has a stick version. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

07-20-2009, 05:55 AM	#6
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: for real or BS My friend's little Formula S, 4sp Valiant convert was the 1st and last I've ever seen....Thought it was a '64, but could've been a '65....I can remember at least 2 of the Valiant 2 dr sedan 235 hp cars that ran the old (and now gone) Div. 1 tracks in New England area. Very cool and very rare little cars...Thanks both Bill and Jeff... WJ

07-21-2009, 12:25 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: for real or BS I don't think the "Commando" 235HP motor was available in a Valiant in 1964. It's not in the Classification guide for '64 for the Valiant. '65 is OK. __________________ Bill

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