Indy Question

[Toyotakid]

Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

Sorry Scott I thought that class was for "hair dryer" cars. There does seem to be somewhat of a weight break issue for EX. Hopefully NHRA will work with you and anyone else running the class. Good luck. Joe P.S. looks pretty fast to me FWIW

BTW, it is very nice to meet a fellow MX class racer, hope we end up at the same event sometime so we can chat more!

Take care and good luck!

[Toyotakid]

Originally Posted by Jerry Maxwell

Hi X guys I should be entered @Indy but messed up and did not run enought divisionals last year. Had a lot of work and it comes first.Will run northern sportsnationals later.Hey taking about indexs mine was 11:40 2 yrs ago then got slammed @ us nats thanks Ray then got slammed again 2 mo's later,I would be a 90s player on a bad trans now a 60-70s guy.But hey I love the V6s and never looking back. Good luck guys give'm Hell. Jerry Maxwell Buick V6 SS/CX

Hey Jerry,

SS/CX is one of the indexes that is WAY out of whack in relaton to AX to BX for horsepower. It makes sense now as you say it got hit for an index adjustment. Since it has not had a record holder since 2008, how long before they give you some index back? Here is the way I see it @
AX - 8.5 lbs per inch = 9.80 index
BX - 11.0 lbs per inch = 10.85 index
the index differential from AX to BX is + .21 per .5 lbs on the index. IF you add the same .21 per .5 lbs from BX to CX shouldnt the index be 11.48 instead of 11.10. If I was looking at running the MX class I would definately choose AX or BX because they are much friendlier to the racer.

Now look at EX in relation to BX
BX - 11.0 lbs per inch = 10.85 index
EX - 11.5 lbs per inch = 10.50 index
In theory because the class is .5 lbs per inch heavier should it not be that the index is slower than BX because we carry more weight but they have us .35 faster and before the adjustment .65 faster ...

Am I looking at this wrong Jerry?

[John Mason]

Probably had something to do with Oakes and Adger Smith running easy 9.80's with their Chevy's in SS/CX and SS/DS that got the indexes killed, and rightfully so. It chased me and my Buick V-6 right out of there.
Tim Cole's been some 8.50's in AX, holds the record at 8.68.
Those Chevy's are BAD.

[Adger Smith]

Jerry,
You forgot about the 12 lb per cu in class, SS/DS, w/ 750 carb. I had the mis-fortune to hit that index by .15 in 2004 at Montgomery.(ran 9.80's back then) Back then I was running a P/G & I learned to play the index game after that big hit. I almost hit it again this year @ Div 4 Memphis 9.86 (1.33 under, too close) in 3,700 DA air. I really didn't think it was on a good run & would do that in those conditions. Wish I could go to Indy, looks like I had the tuneup for Indy type air. The quickest I've ever run in SS/DS was testing a DC carb. The air was at 900 DA. It was within a tick or two of Scotts 9.57. We don't get good air but a couple of times a year down here in Texas so I've tried to make it run good in bad air. There are still a few of us guys that like to thrash these little V-6 engines. Still a few left in comp too. Scott, it's Nice they let you have a place to play after shutting down Sport Compact series. Welcome

[Adger Smith]

Scott,
I'm not up much on the S/C rules (SS/EX) but what is keeping you from running SS/BX? I'm also not up on the construction of your car for SS/EX.
Is the Alky fuel the only issue? Is it FWD in a RWD class? A quick scan of the rule book didn't show me many differences in the classes.


Sorry John... I didn't intend to run any one out of a class. I can't speak for the others, but I head my head up my "Arse" when I did in the SS/DS index.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Scott,
I'm not up much on the S/C rules (SS/EX) but what is keeping you from running SS/BX? I'm also not up on the construction of your car for SS/EX.
Is the Alky fuel the only issue? Is it FWD in a RWD calss? A quick scan of the rule book didn't show me many differences in the classes.

Hi Adger. I think one of the reasons for the stiff index is the methanol. Maybe if Scott lobbied nhra for a softer index and the use of race gas it might work. They really don't have anything to compare it to because of the methanol.

[John Mason]

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Scott,
I'm not up much on the S/C rules (SS/EX) but what is keeping you from running SS/BX? I'm also not up on the construction of your car for SS/EX.
Is the Alky fuel the only issue? Is it FWD in a RWD class? A quick scan of the rule book didn't show me many differences in the classes.


Sorry John... I didn't intend to run any one out of a class. I can't speak for the others, but I head my head up my "Arse" when I did in the SS/DS index.

Adger, we talked about this before. My combo wouldn't run with yours or Oakes but that's MY problem, not yours.
I always wanted to build a 327/250 anyway.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

I hadn't mentioned the BX record first I can't even think of reaching it, unless I fell off a cliff. When Mr. Oakes set it @ 9.6?? I thought I MAY be able to hit it, after the run out west I said forget it. Second my old stuff just can't run with the G.M. stuff period! Joe P.S. I sure wish Ford would come out with some new technology stuff for the V6, how 'bout it Ford got your ears on?