Original hemi dart information

hemicop · 09-13-2009, 06:22 AM

Could this possibly be the "Manhattan Speed shop" Car?

bigshow2966 · 09-13-2009, 11:43 AM

Has it possibly been re-bodied? That would explain the correct number tags and no floor replacement.

chris3racing · 09-13-2009, 07:09 PM

I would post what you know about the car on MOPARTS on the Unlawful board when you post ask if Reed has information on that race car. Also if you are at the East Coast Drag Times Reunion in October there will more than likely be people there that can tell you about the car.

bigshow2966 · 09-13-2009, 07:23 PM

HemiFred and StewartP will be good sources also.

Sean Marconette · 09-13-2009, 08:27 PM

Pat Forsyth in Lawrence, Kansas. Automotive Machine & Performance. 785-843-9333

He is a wealth of information on owners of these cars and who they have changed ownership to.

Sean

John Kelley · 09-13-2009, 08:45 PM

If you can locate a November 1968 issue of CARS Magazine there is an article about a HEMI DART.
It's about Charlie Castaldo picking up his HEMI DART at Hurst's Hamtramck,Michigan facility.

Paul Ceasrine · 09-14-2009, 03:33 AM

Paul here,

I'm originally from the Mahopac, NY area, and spent pretty much every Sunday at Dover Drag Strip from 68' thru 75'. (Track closed in May 76').
We raced our Cuda's there. Also, good friends with Lou Vignogna.
He lived about a mile away from us. He spent many nights at our house helping my father work on his Cuda. Also, hung out at my fathers garage
"West Road Amoco" in Carmel, a racers haven from 67' thru 70'.
And later the machine shop, "Valley Motors" in Jefferson Valley, NY
from 71' thru 95'. So I know Lou, late wife Chrissie, brothers Ray and
Jerry "Super Scissors". (The damn guy even cut my hair for a while).
As for the Castaldo car, that Daryl has. I'm not so sure. Charlie's
car (the second one) was an original SS/BA car. But it was brown, with a
goldish center section. Not red w/ sliver-white center section. I saw that car more than a few times at Dover (69' thru 71'). Even when Charlie
put a "FOR SALE" sign in the passenger side rear-side window.
Ready for this $5500.

Believe it or not, he had a little difficulty selling the car. The car flew pretty good too, 10.70's. In 70' it ran SS/AA and in 71' it split between SS/AA and Pro/Stock (a couple of times). I think
Charlie may have switched up the front grille and headlight bezels to a
69' to qualify for Pro/S at the sanctioned meets. Dover, which was not
sanctioned by the NHRA allowed the rules to be bent for earlier cars that wanted to run in Pro/Stock (2-year old car rule).
As for finding the car in a basement garage in an apartment complex in Mt. Kisco, NY, well that leaves only (2) places. the Mount Kisco Arms,
a Co-op, and another place. I knew that area, and as a Mopar-Nut, I never heard of any Hemi Super Stock car just laying around.

Paul

09-13-2009, 06:22 AM	#1
hemicop Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Could this possibly be the "Manhattan Speed shop" Car?

09-13-2009, 11:43 AM	#2
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 675 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Has it possibly been re-bodied? That would explain the correct number tags and no floor replacement.

09-13-2009, 07:09 PM	#3
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information I would post what you know about the car on MOPARTS on the Unlawful board when you post ask if Reed has information on that race car. Also if you are at the East Coast Drag Times Reunion in October there will more than likely be people there that can tell you about the car.

09-13-2009, 07:23 PM	#4
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 675 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information HemiFred and StewartP will be good sources also.

09-13-2009, 08:27 PM	#5
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 796 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Pat Forsyth in Lawrence, Kansas. Automotive Machine & Performance. 785-843-9333 He is a wealth of information on owners of these cars and who they have changed ownership to. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

09-13-2009, 08:45 PM	#6
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information If you can locate a November 1968 issue of CARS Magazine there is an article about a HEMI DART. It's about Charlie Castaldo picking up his HEMI DART at Hurst's Hamtramck,Michigan facility.

09-14-2009, 03:33 AM	#7
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul here, I'm originally from the Mahopac, NY area, and spent pretty much every Sunday at Dover Drag Strip from 68' thru 75'. (Track closed in May 76'). We raced our Cuda's there. Also, good friends with Lou Vignogna. He lived about a mile away from us. He spent many nights at our house helping my father work on his Cuda. Also, hung out at my fathers garage "West Road Amoco" in Carmel, a racers haven from 67' thru 70'. And later the machine shop, "Valley Motors" in Jefferson Valley, NY from 71' thru 95'. So I know Lou, late wife Chrissie, brothers Ray and Jerry "Super Scissors". (The damn guy even cut my hair for a while). As for the Castaldo car, that Daryl has. I'm not so sure. Charlie's car (the second one) was an original SS/BA car. But it was brown, with a goldish center section. Not red w/ sliver-white center section. I saw that car more than a few times at Dover (69' thru 71'). Even when Charlie put a "FOR SALE" sign in the passenger side rear-side window. Ready for this $5500. Believe it or not, he had a little difficulty selling the car. The car flew pretty good too, 10.70's. In 70' it ran SS/AA and in 71' it split between SS/AA and Pro/Stock (a couple of times). I think Charlie may have switched up the front grille and headlight bezels to a 69' to qualify for Pro/S at the sanctioned meets. Dover, which was not sanctioned by the NHRA allowed the rules to be bent for earlier cars that wanted to run in Pro/Stock (2-year old car rule). As for finding the car in a basement garage in an apartment complex in Mt. Kisco, NY, well that leaves only (2) places. the Mount Kisco Arms, a Co-op, and another place. I knew that area, and as a Mopar-Nut, I never heard of any Hemi Super Stock car just laying around. Paul

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