IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes?

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by Tweaker

Yeah honestly i noticed that now that i dig into it, its pretty sad their is no like Amateur type of racing now unless its just local bracket racing, its pretty sad you have to be insanely rich or sponsored up the butt.

Thanks guys for all the help i guess if i cant find a place i belong for one race ill just not race im def not taking off parts and putting on crap OEM stock parts to race. I want to go faster not slower :P

I wouldn't go as far as to say you have to be rich. I went to the junkyard and got a motor this past week. Put my cam in it, a set of valve springs, and went racing. $500 and some parts we had and we were in business. It is all in how much you want to spend really. It can be done cheap but most dont choose to do it cheap!

[Tweaker]

Originally Posted by LNorton

I wouldn't go as far as to say you have to be rich. I went to the junkyard and got a motor this past week. Put my cam in it, a set of valve springs, and went racing. $500 and some parts we had and we were in business. It is all in how much you want to spend really. It can be done cheap but most dont choose to do it cheap!

Don't believe it can be done cheap with my car, i believe my index would be 12.10 and im most likely in the 12.40-12.50 range id need more power to get to the index but im kinda running out of bolt-on's for this car and i don't know if any cam's on the market will meet the stock elim specs but cams are also expensive for this car too =P i need to get her weighed but 12.10 index for my car is a stretch w/ out more power (mods) or less weight. bone stock this car ran like 13.8-13.9.. its all good i just wanted to go out and have some fun we'll see what happens. I'll get her weighed, talk to some people from IHRA see where I would belong and if i dont really meet the index i'll see if i can by january if not i guess maybe down the road keep trying to get there =P Can i put any cam in to run stock elim, or their a certain lift or duration it has to meet?

[LNorton]

Lift is the only thing checked on the cam in stock. If you run pure stock they will check lift, duration, and overlap.

[Tweaker]

Originally Posted by LNorton

Lift is the only thing checked on the cam in stock. If you run pure stock they will check lift, duration, and overlap.

so lift has to remain stock lift in stock elim? i dont think their are any aftermarket cam's out for my car that remain the stock lift ..


Intake Theoretical valve lift @ 0 lash -11.166 mm (0.439 in)

Exhaust Theoretical valve lift @ 0 lash -11.066 mm (0.436 in)

im seeing aftermarket cams with lifts of .492, .470 .480.. bummer man stock elim class is tough :P

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Tweaker

so lift has to remain stock lift in stock elim? i dont think their are any aftermarket cam's out for my car that remain the stock lift ..


Intake Theoretical valve lift @ 0 lash -11.166 mm (0.439 in)

Exhaust Theoretical valve lift @ 0 lash -11.066 mm (0.436 in)

im seeing aftermarket cams with lifts of .492, .470 .480.. bummer man stock elim class is tough :P

The "STOCKER" grinds are usually custom ground and not "Off The Shelf" items or in a catalog. You have to call a company like Comp Cams and talk to Chris Pagent (speling?) and see what he can come up with for your car and engine. The other problem is the Detroit Manufacturers have stopped supplying NHRA and IHRA with duration and overlap spec. for the last several years along with spring pressure specs since the cam and spring rule was changed in 1985. The class was originally intended for the older style stockers that IHRA still has specs for such as 1949 Olds, 55-57 Chevys, 389 Pontiacs, 348 and 409 Chevys, etc.In other words it seems you would be able to use a current "stocker" grind and get away with it although they really suck as a street cam (no vacum). You should call Mike Baker (tech director) at IHRA for conformation of what Im posting on this site to be sure. Its been about 8 years since I have worked with the assoc. He's a good guy and will work with you and your combination. Danny Waters Sr.or Hank Blankenship are also good guys who would help out. Hank is the guy you would probably end up dealing with IF you had to go to tear down (yes it happens on occasion) to be certified as legal. You can also get the engine specs from them to give you what you need to know for the head C.C.'s, deck height, valve size and etc. Good luck.

[Andrew Hill]

It sounds like your car may be close to being legal for Pure Stock. D/PS has an index of 13.10 and your car would have to weigh 3470 lbs according to the NHRA HP rating of 300.

[cicero819]

Tweaker, don't get discouraged, find someone running the class you want to run and ask questions, my daughter got her 2007 Mustang to run 12:25 with minimum ( legal)work, headers from Roush, 4:10 posi, Drive shaft safety hoop, 15"x 9" Bogart wheels, 9" slicks, reprogram computer(You need someone who knows how to set it up) and removal of excess weight. You must follow IHRA guide but I know once you have the right information your car will run properly. Good luck

[Tweaker]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

It sounds like your car may be close to being legal for Pure Stock. D/PS has an index of 13.10 and your car would have to weigh 3470 lbs according to the NHRA HP rating of 300.

you know what that may be where i belong i'll call ihra folks perhaps they'll let me run in it even though i have the louvers and grille i mean that is pretty lame if i cant because of that and my control arms are non-adjustable streetable steeda control arms nothing crazy or fancy besides that it sounds like i would be pure stock i mean my cold air intake is nothing crazy either its just a C&L plastic elbow w/ a K&N air filter on it on it. thanks ill look into it.

Can you run ET Fronts and ET streets in Pure Stock though?

omfg, another bullet in my journey... i read in the rule book it talks about only factory tint on windows in pure stock, wtf I live in florida. I have 15% tint on my side windows and rear window.. these rules are RETARDED. They need to be updated from the 1960's and update to 2009.