Combine sticks & automatics

[foglize]

That would be awesome if they did. The hemi's are combined and there is no real difference. It would make having a stick a little more appealing, and make more cars for class. Instead of only one race a year where you have more than 3 cars in class.

And man would that help the old beaten up 295/327 combo in GT/AA
Stick=2650
Auto=2785

Andy Fogle

[Mike Coe]

Sean, we are talking stockers on a 9" tire and on a variety of tracks and conditions, I'd hate to try to run eliminations on any track leaving at 7000 RPM with a radial on my car! If someone could show me how, man, I'd be over a tenth under the record right now, cool!!

[JRyan]

Originally Posted by Mike Coe

Sean, we are talking stockers on a 9" tire and on a variety of tracks and conditions, I'd hate to try to run eliminations on any track leaving at 7000 RPM with a radial on my car! If someone could show me how, man, I'd be over a tenth under the record right now, cool!!

Mike,

I know of at least one BB car that runs a stick and the 9" radial and after he got the clutch right, the car is definitely faster. So it can be done.

Jerry

[greg fulk]

If this was to be done the powerglide car would have to be let have 3-speeds! ! example just look @ Div 3 Donnie Beeler & Tom Rambo... same car same engine SAME engine builder! Donnie is a atleast a .10 if not .15 quicker all the time. Ok got my Nitro Joe here Donnie ran a best 11.028 to Tom's 11.269 last year

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by greg fulk

If this was to be done the powerglide car would have to be let have 3-speeds! ! example just look @ Div 3 Donnie Beeler & Tom Rambo... same car same engine SAME engine builder! Donnie is a atleast a .10 if not .15 quicker all the time. Ok got my Nitro Joe here Donnie ran a best 11.028 to Tom's 11.269 last year

I run an identical combination to some other cars in my class, built by the same engine builder, that are .10-.15 quicker than me. And we run the same trans, too. So? Somebody's always faster than somebody else. Heck, I've seen some cars go faster with a different driver in the seat of the same car!

If Sticks have an advantage... great! I think it'd be great to see more stick cars out there, as well as more heads-up racing in general.

Aren't there already some Super Stock classes and FWD's that have them combined, and just give a weight break to one trans? Or as someone else said, combine them, let 'em eat, and they'll sort themselves out.

[Tom keedle]

HEY!
I KNOW!
clutchless manual trans's....

[Alan Roehrich]

How about 1 pound weight breaks starting at 7.0 for AA and going up to 23.0 instead?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

How about 1 pound weight breaks starting at 7.0 for AA and going up to 23.0 instead?

I had plans of the same wt breaks. 1 pound breaks with stick and auto together heads up (7 tru 20 somthing) AND allowing 5 hp per wt.break difference for stick vs auto. Example......8 lb break auto car would recieve 40 lb break (8 x 5 hp) over the same class stick car. further down a 15 lb break car (15 x 5 HP) would recieve a 75 break over a same class car with a stick. Same thing through all of the wt. breaks. A 23 lb class break auto car would recieve 115 lb break over a same class car with a stick. Same deal for S/S cars. Maybe 5 HP would not be enough but it was a place to start until it could be fine tuned. Both stick and auto would have the SAME HP factors with this plan. Its a moot point as I dont think a sportsman association is in the cards. Even the mighty NHRA cannot draw a good car counts except for INDY and some Div. 1 races.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by foglize

That would be awesome if they did. The hemi's are combined and there is no real difference. It would make having a stick a little more appealing, and make more cars for class. Instead of only one race a year where you have more than 3 cars in class.

And man would that help the old beaten up 295/327 combo in GT/AA
Stick=2650
Auto=2785

Andy Fogle

but do you really want to have to race Shaun Leblanc for class?