How about those ford cj's at vegas

Dick Butler · 11-01-2009, 11:03 AM

Guys many of you are missing the Point of the Mustangs. It got a factory to be interested in Drag racing again. NHRA wins. It got several more entries to events by guys seeing the bogus HP and jumping into them. NHRA wins. Everyone else keeps bringing their cars and racing NHRA wins. Many people talk about the injustice but are powerless to change it. NHRA at least breaks even....This is not about Fairness, it is not about racing, it is not about good factoring or intelligent thought related to the cars.... it is all about NHRA making money... Correctly done or poorly done... they continue to use the same thinking to do it..Our choices are continue to go and pay them entry, continue to complain of the unfairness and just race or..... Sad it kills the hobby many of us lived for...

Floyd Staggs · 11-01-2009, 11:34 AM

The last of the cj's is gone. Ran dead on with a 0 and still lost.
I guess all that extra horsepower didn't help.

bill dedman · 11-01-2009, 02:20 PM

I seems to help them win class....

davidhuff · 11-01-2009, 03:27 PM

I love the old chevy,mopar and ford cars just like you guys do,but a lot of members are tired of trying to find and race a 40 year old stocker.I think the new cobra jets in the end will be great for nhra drag racing.Just my .02 cents!

Alan Roehrich · 11-01-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff

I love the old chevy,mopar and ford cars just like you guys do,but a lot of members are tired of trying to find and race a 40 year old stocker.I think the new cobra jets in the end will be great for nhra drag racing.Just my .02 cents!

Sorry David, I don't think that argument has any real merit. If you take the time to look, for example, you can find an A, B, F, or X body Chevy, say from 66-70, for $10K. For the rest, if you have to pay for everything if you shop, you should be able to get it done for under $50K more. For a total of $60 to $65K, again, if you just carry it to a shop and say "make this a Stock Eliminator car", then go buy an engine and transmission.

A new Cobra Jet is, or was $75K. And that does not include a real racing transmission, or the pieces that go with it.

Of course, I suppose the new cars might drive down the price of an older used AA, A, or B car if the owner got fed up with the whole thing. And I really don't think that is good for the class, either.

novassdude · 11-01-2009, 07:02 PM

I think if they were doing it with actual showroom available models it would be great for the class. Is any one out there building a showroom mustang?

davidhuff · 11-01-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Sorry David, I don't think that argument has any real merit. If you take the time to look, for example, you can find an A, B, F, or X body Chevy, say from 66-70, for $10K. For the rest, if you have to pay for everything if you shop, you should be able to get it done for under $50K more. For a total of $60 to $65K, again, if you just carry it to a shop and say "make this a Stock Eliminator car", then go buy an engine and transmission.

A new Cobra Jet is, or was $75K. And that does not include a real racing transmission, or the pieces that go with it.

Of course, I suppose the new cars might drive down the price of an older used AA, A, or B car if the owner got fed up with the whole thing. And I really don't think that is good for the class, either.

No thanks,I have already been down that road years ago with Woodro Josey.No more rust buckets for me.LOL

GUMP · 11-02-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Sorry David, I don't think that argument has any real merit. If you take the time to look, for example, you can find an A, B, F, or X body Chevy, say from 66-70, for $10K. For the rest, if you have to pay for everything if you shop, you should be able to get it done for under $50K more. For a total of $60 to $65K, again, if you just carry it to a shop and say "make this a Stock Eliminator car", then go buy an engine and transmission.

Not everyone wants to race an antique.

Ed Wright · 11-02-2009, 10:12 AM

It would be so simple if they would just put one on a chassis dyno. Getting one that had not been de-tuned for more favorable lower numbers might be a problem. Even if they used that rwhp number instead of flywheel hp it would be closer to correct.

X-TECH MAN · 11-02-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

Not everyone wants to race an antique.

Not everyone likes this late model junk either.

11-01-2009, 11:03 AM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: How about those ford cj's at vegas Guys many of you are missing the Point of the Mustangs. It got a factory to be interested in Drag racing again. NHRA wins. It got several more entries to events by guys seeing the bogus HP and jumping into them. NHRA wins. Everyone else keeps bringing their cars and racing NHRA wins. Many people talk about the injustice but are powerless to change it. NHRA at least breaks even....This is not about Fairness, it is not about racing, it is not about good factoring or intelligent thought related to the cars.... it is all about NHRA making money... Correctly done or poorly done... they continue to use the same thinking to do it..Our choices are continue to go and pay them entry, continue to complain of the unfairness and just race or..... Sad it kills the hobby many of us lived for... Last edited by Dick Butler; 11-01-2009 at 11:05 AM.

11-01-2009, 11:34 AM	#2
Floyd Staggs VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cucamonga, CA Posts: 1,522 Likes: 157 Liked 229 Times in 99 Posts	Re: How about those ford cj's at vegas The last of the cj's is gone. Ran dead on with a 0 and still lost. I guess all that extra horsepower didn't help. __________________ Floyd Staggs 787 SST

11-01-2009, 02:20 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: How about those ford cj's at vegas I seems to help them win class.... __________________ Bill

11-01-2009, 03:27 PM	#4
davidhuff Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 928 Likes: 1 Liked 120 Times in 42 Posts	Re: How about those ford cj's at vegas I love the old chevy,mopar and ford cars just like you guys do,but a lot of members are tired of trying to find and race a 40 year old stocker.I think the new cobra jets in the end will be great for nhra drag racing.Just my .02 cents!

11-01-2009, 07:02 PM	#6
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: How about those ford cj's at vegas I think if they were doing it with actual showroom available models it would be great for the class. Is any one out there building a showroom mustang?

11-02-2009, 10:12 AM	#9
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: How about those ford cj's at vegas It would be so simple if they would just put one on a chassis dyno. Getting one that had not been de-tuned for more favorable lower numbers might be a problem. Even if they used that rwhp number instead of flywheel hp it would be closer to correct. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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