Lencos in SS

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Travis Gusso

Jeff-

On a clutchless 5-speed (and I assume 4-speed) the only gear that it will lock in is 5th - meaning you don't have to hold (the shifter) it in gear when you are off the gas. It will come out of all other gears when you lift off the gas unless you physically hold the shifter in that gear. This is how they check for clutchless tranny's, put the car in any gear but 5th and rock the car back in forth. If it pops out of gear it is obviously a clutchless unit. -tg

Travis

I driven a clutchless tranny before in a friend of mine's bracket car, and in the pits, if you let off the gas, the trans popped out of gear. You are not suppose to hold the trans in gear! If the trans pops out of gear, than you have to come to a complete stop and start back over again shifting! I was told that by g-force yrrrrrrrrrrrrsss ago.


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

[Jeff Lee]

Danny Gracia informed Rob Youngblood at last weekends Vegas race that the clutchless trans will be acceptable for use next year in the Super Stock classes.

On another note, Rob told me you could send your G-Force "clutch" trans in and could have them convert it to a "clutchless" trans. Price is reasonable but you should contact G-Force for a quote based on your particular trans. I'm not aware if this can be done to an old Jerico like I have.

I've seen racers pay $500+ to convert their traditional Long in-line to a pistol grip. Nobody forced them, it wasn't even a necessity. They just wanted it. And I doubt the shifter, traditional or pistol grip, is responsible for them winning or loosing a round.

Don't forget, those that race other than NHRA SS may not want a clutchless trans. Just about all of the nostalgia and even the local stick racer clubs don't allow clutchless transmissions. If those are issues to your racing schedule, keep what you've got. I am. I'm tapped out and a new trans doesn't fit the bill for me. And I'm not worried either.

[Travis Gusso]

Steven-

You Ford guys confuse me?!?

You basically reiterate everything I said, but missed my point. My point being that the tranny will only lock in high gear, and what gear are you usually in when getting on and off the gas when bracket racing? High gear maybe?

-tg

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Travis Gusso

Steven-

You Ford guys confuse me?!?

You basically reiterate everything I said, but missed my point. My point being that the tranny will only lock in high gear, and what gear are you usually in when getting on and off the gas when bracket racing? High gear maybe?

-tg

i was using 4th

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Danny Gracia informed Rob Youngblood at last weekends Vegas race that the clutchless trans will be acceptable for use next year

Tony........It looks Like "DANNY BOY" is one of the likely ones who lit the fuse on the can of S&@T you mentioned.

[Ed Carpenter]

Allowing a clutchless trans in SS is more bulls**t. I wonder who was lobbying for this. This just seperates the have and the have nots even more. I was warned about getting into SS and I should have listened. Hard work only goes so far. It takes money to go fast and alot of it. Super Stock racing is fun, but where do all these rule changes stop.

[Ed Carpenter]

Jeff,

I sent in my Long shifter this past summer to be updated to pistol grip. i looked up my receipt and paid 209.00 including tax. Ed

[SSDA3426]

Well As Tony Knows(And Many Others Here That Class Race)There's NEVER Any Certainty To ANYTHING In Racing...How Many Times Have You All Traveled To And From An Event Without SOMETHING Unplanned Happening?!If You Can Count On Your Hands You Musta Not Been Racin Long OR DAMN Lucky!!...I Have Traveled To Tracks And They Nit Pick Your Equipment To Death(Little things)and the Next Guy With A HUGE Name rolls in and they Wave At Them..Shake Their Hand And Pass Them Without Them Ever Bringing Their Vehicle into Tech......I've Seen It Happen WAY TOO Many Times....Even When Records Are Set There Are Short Cuts For These Same People When My Car Is Scattered For Twelve States To Verify....This Is A Game..We Will Continue To Play And Pay...We'll Bitch,Well Kick,Well Scratch But We Wont Bite And Well Play By What Rules They Make Up For Us Because We Want To Play...NOTHING Will Ever Change..It Hasnt In 50+ Years and Aint Now because Some Of Us Are Bitchin About It...I Found This Out YEARS ago....
I Dont Even Have The Dough To Be Competitive Right Now...BUT Assure You..As Soon As I Do I Will Be Back And Am Seriously Thinking About SHAKING HANDS Again In My Car.
We Used to Go To National Events with at least 4 trannys...2 Autos,2 Manuals...Change It All And Race At The Track with the Lighter(Less Entries)Class..Hell Me And Phil Rohr Changed Up Between the Two Of Us YEARS Ago in My Car in Cajun Nationals...1 in Manual 1 in Auto...Those Were The Days...Those Were The Days......Sad Theyre Gone And The Modern Pencil Pushing None Race Driver Concerned Track Managers and Rule Developers Are Here Now...My Cousin "Bullet Bob" Just Bit The Wall in his NEW Car at Charlotte This Weekend Because Of LACK of CONCERN on the Tracks Behalf.....


Oh Well...Like Was said Before..These Are Just Our Rants And May Be Heard But Will Not Be Cared About by the Officials.....



SS

[Mark Yacavone]

Nobody's figured this out yet?
Just another step towards combining sticks and automatics .

[bill dedman]

Shoot; just give the sticks clutchless shifting, and some sort of electronic clutch release, and to "level the playing field," give the automatics transbrakes, and lockup convertors...

I'm talking Stock Eliminator, here...

That ought to keep the contingency sponsors happy for awhile... and, everybody will be happier, except the guys who have to quit racing because the increased cost of funding the new-order (read: QUICKER), is impossible, in this down economy....

OH, and NHRA can lay-off even more tech people since they won't have to be policing clutchless 4-speeds and looking for transbrakes and lockup converters (they DO do that, don't they???)