Original hemi dart information

[Paul Ceasrine]

JIMI "V",
Only good intentions here. Just trying to figure out where the 68' Dart
my father had for a brief period ended up. I am trying to back-track all avenues, including the Mystery Mount Kisco car. Can't put my finger on it,
but one of these Dart's may have been at Bill Davitt's shop on Adams Street, Bedford Hills for a short time (75' or 76'). I was there alot during that time picking-up or dropping off cylinder heads (foreign stuff).
I'm really going out-on-a-limb. Can't be sure.
Paul

[Paul Ceasrine]

Mopar68,
Had to add a little humor, to break-up the monotony.
Bill Rodik, on post #197. Are you sure, that looks like Gregg Allman with the long blonde hair, talking to Sonny, Elvis Pressley's bodyguard.
Thank You, Very Much
Before more Hemi stuff. I forgot to add. Yes, Jeff Selligman. Ran at
Dover, same time as us. Back in 70' or 71' that car ran in J/SA, while we were in K/S with the 273 Cuda. The Valiant was about 120 lbs. lighter,
and ran in one class lower. In 72' it was re-classified to K/SA, we went up to L/S. That photo in (National Dragster) must be from 72'.
Jeff had an speed parts store in Danbury, A & S Performance. Also, liked food, alot of it. Nice guy, very large. If I recall, the car ran around 14.50's or so. Won quite a few trophies at Dover, no competition in that class. Only a 66' Belvedere 383/275HP 2-barrel (12.00 - 12.49 wt/hp
factor). Not too many of those 67' 273/235HP cars made.
PC

[Bill Rolik]

It is definitely Bobby Yowell, and not Allman, Johnny Winter, Edgar Winter, or Ted Nugent (The Motor City Madman). I have photos of his car from that day (I wonder if he still has those pants hanging in the closet). And I think this may have been the time period when Brooklyn Heavy was involved in various race activities. I had heard a story about a match race at E-Town (as part of the two cars on time trials), with Carmine driving, against another group, winner take all. The rules of the race were "No Rules". Apparently, when both cars were staged, Carmine left before the tree started down. I was told that the interpretation of the "No Rules" meant that there was no need to wait for the green. As far as I know, the loser paid off.

You are right, this has nothing to do with 68 Hemi SS cars, but since I have no more vintage 68 photos to post, I had to "stir the sauce" some more! LOL!

Bill Rolik

1514 SS

[Bill Rolik]

I almost forgot, but there is one tidbit I would like to throw in regarding earlier references to Manhattan Speed Shop.

The owner, Joe Bello, and I did some business a few years ago (vintage Mopar and other OEM parts), and he has OEM and speed inventory from when he operated Worth Auto Parts, in addition to Manhattan Speed on Canal St, and I believe Bronx Speed as well. It is all in storage now in the Bronx, and he sells periodically on eBay.

Perhaps he could provide some history on their involvement on a 68 car.

You should be able to reach him at one of the following numbers:

718-589-2979

516-746-6744

Bill Rolik

1514 SS

[Liteweight]

Jimi--
I have the utmost respect for what your father & yourself have contributed to the drag racing world. I do not want to discredit this in any way, I only want to find the true history on my car.I am not in this to put a higher value on my car,but instead, I am a true enthusiest of these factory built race cars. If you can find those pictures that your father had when he purchased this car, it sure would help alot.
Mark Janaky told me of a fellow who helped find this car for your father by the name of "Big Al". I will contact him this week to see what I can find out from him. Do you remember anything on this???
Living up here in Canada, there just wasn't alot of Hemi Super Stock stuff going on, so I have to rely on avenues such as this forum to get information.

Bill--
I will also be contacting Joe Bello to see what he can offer for info.Thankyou for the tip.

Liteweight
Daryl

[Paul Ceasrine]

JimI "V"
The "Tony" you may be referring to on the earlier thread may have been from Salerno Dodge, Route 202, Peekskill, NY.
Peekskill Dodge, also in Peekskill, was a little bit before your time,
which closed in 74' or so. But man, did they have some nice musclecars in 69'/70'/71', and a couple of Dover-based race cars.
Daryl, there may have been (2) Manhattan-based speed shops. The
Manhattan Speed Shop, Canal Street,,, and Manhattan Speed & Power
Equipment, 232 West Broadway. Both in lower NYC. The Hemi Dart from one of them had lettrered Manhattan Speed Parts on the front fender, photo of it versus Charlie Castaldo at E-Town, NJ. Not sure if both one-in-the-same. Two possible places that car could have come from, Manhattan Dodge, or the Chrysler Corporation Headquarters
in NYC.
PC

[Bill Rolik]

The origins of the Dart would possibly have been McKenzie Motors (East Tremont Ave.) in the Bronx, or S&W Dodge in Queens. As far as Manhattan, I believe that at the time it MAY have been operated under the Potamkin name.

Bill Rolik

1514 SS

P.S. Some of the items I bought from Joe Bello had tags on them from Tremont Dodge, which (I believe) was formerly McKenzie Motors.