How about those ford cj's at vegas

[bill dedman]

>>>"Bill, the Hemis are not "segregated" from the rest of the Eliminator. If they were, then Bucky couldn't have won SS last month."

No, in the Eliminator, they're not segregated, but in class, they are. You can't win SS/AH (CLASS) with a Ford or a Chevy.

I think their case is an anomaly; no one ever built a car in their class that could outrun them. Only makes sense to put them in their own class, for that reason, alone.

That may not be the case with the Mustangs; the Dodges are knocking on their door, and should improve with some track time. Who knows what the supercharged LS-Corvette motor that is going (supposedly) into the 2011 Z-28, will run....

I think all these cars could fit into a 7-pound AAA/S class without having to make a separate class just for certain cars. A shootout might be forthcoming, yes, but that's show-biz; a whole different deal.

Just my 2-cents, again...

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

>>>"Bill, the Hemis are not "segregated" from the rest of the Eliminator. If they were, then Bucky couldn't have won SS last month."

No, in the Eliminator, they're not segregated, but in class, they are. You can't win SS/AH (CLASS) with a Ford or a Chevy.

I think their case is an anomaly; no one ever built a car in their class that could outrun them. Only makes sense to put them in their own class, for that reason, alone.

That may not be the case with the Mustangs; the Dodges are knocking on their door, and should improve with some track time. Who knows what the supercharged LS-Corvette motor that is going (supposedly) into the 2011 Z-28, will run....

I think all these cars could fit into a 7-pound AAA/S class without having to make a separate class just for certain cars. A shootout might be forthcoming, yes, but that's show-biz; a whole different deal.

Just my 2-cents, again...

I'd say 6 pounds would be closer, but then you would have to deal with the problem of 9" tires going low 9s. They just need to go to super stock in my opinion.

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

I'd say 6 pounds would be closer, but then you would have to deal with the problem of 9" tires going low 9s. They just need to go to super stock in my opinion.

That's just not gonna happen. Do the math, those car's would be 400 pounds heavy for a six pound break. And BTW, they're in Superstock!

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Sean Cour

That's just not gonna happen. Do the math, those car's would be 400 pounds heavy for a six pound break. And BTW, they're in Superstock!

If they were factored what they should be they could fit in a 6 lbs/hp easily. At 500 hp and 6 lbs/hp that would be 3170? And I mean they should be in Superstock ONLY.

[bill dedman]

Thought to ponder: a W/SA Pinto Vs. any one of the new AA/SA 2008, 140-mph Mustangs.

Finish line MPH disparity = SIXTY MPH~ or, more...

Is that even SAFE?

I realize Comp may be even worse...

But, is it time to split this thing at, say, F Stock, and welcome in the new JUNIOR STOCK (G thru W), in the interest of finish-line safety?

Just a thought...

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Thought to ponder: a W/SA Pinto Vs. any one of the new AA/SA 2008, 140-mph Mustangs.

Finish line MPH disparity = SIXTY MPH~ or, more...

Is that even SAFE?

I realize Comp may be even worse...

But, is it time to split this thing at, say, F Stock, and welcome in the new JUNIOR STOCK (G thru W), in the interest of finish-line safety?

Just a thought...

Good idea but NHRA would cut the win money in the upper classes in half at the min. The Jr. racers would get a trophy and a swift kick in the *****.

[Bill Harris]

Originally Posted by bill dedman
Thought to ponder: a W/SA Pinto Vs. any one of the new AA/SA 2008, 140-mph Mustangs.

Finish line MPH disparity = SIXTY MPH~ or, more...

Is that even SAFE?

I realize Comp may be even worse...

But, is it time to split this thing at, say, F Stock, and welcome in the new JUNIOR STOCK (G thru W), in the interest of finish-line safety?

Just a thought...

S/S isn't any better. Compare SS/AM running against a SS/P or SS/PA and you get almost a 60 MPH difference too.

[Jim Bailey]

I'll repeat myself one more time. Then again, with my short term memory loss from years of Nitro Racing, I may repeat it again. Or did I already say that? ...(laughing) ... We ALL know there is no STOCK in Stock Racing Anymore. However, if a car was never titled, has no vin numbers, could never have been licensed to drive on the street and drivin' home from the dealer, It's A SUPER STOCK CAR ONLY. I don't care how many were built or who built them. For a car to be a stocker, you should be able to have purchased the car off the show room floor at the dealer and drive it home. Period End. If the "powers- to- be", along with the manufactures, feel the need to continue this BS, then, the PURPOSE BUILT CARS should have their own class. This needs to be addressed RIGHT NOW !! Or when the Drag Pac Challenger filters down into the lower classes you'll hear whinning like you've never thought possible.

[cj1]

In regards to us being unsportsmanlike I would like to comment on that. When the semifinals of class came around the two chevy competitors came up to us and told us (Brent and I) were going to run each other and they ( Mr Belden and the other competitor) were going to run each other. So if anyone was dictating who was going to run who it was them not us. I responded by saying that didnt seem right and suggested using a ladder, drawing numbers, or flipping coins. Nobody objected so we drew numbers. I drew a 2, Brent drew a 1 so therefore I ran a Chevy and so did Brent. We did not bully anyone into racing us it was total luck of the draw we could of run each other just as easily. Also I recall in a previous post before Indy that there was no accepted method for pairing cars in class it is however the competitors in that class that decide how to do it and i've noticed that even these methods change from round to round. So if there is a common practice please let us know so that we dont make a mistake again.

My 2 cents worth

Chad Holzman

[W J]

I think the new iron in town is great. I love the LS-1 F-body Camaros and Firebirds, the late model LS-2 GTO's, the Zo6 Corvettes, The Drag-Pak Challengers, AND these new rocket CJ's from Ford.....awesome engineering, technology and craftsmanship...I say welcome to the new world of drag racing. Surely it's about time the 40-50 yr. old stuff had some company out there anyway. Make some intelligent necessary changes to classes, and let everyone have a go at it.....otherwise, this sport will be dead and gone alot sooner than we all think....and they'll be jamming more of those those fart-can jamboree cars down our throats, maybe even powering them with acorns and pine cones.....again, my 2 cents... WJ