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Old 11-04-2009, 03:00 PM   #1
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I'll repeat myself one more time. Then again, with my short term memory loss from years of Nitro Racing, I may repeat it again. Or did I already say that? ...(laughing) ... We ALL know there is no STOCK in Stock Racing Anymore. However, if a car was never titled, has no vin numbers, could never have been licensed to drive on the street and drivin' home from the dealer, It's A SUPER STOCK CAR ONLY. I don't care how many were built or who built them. For a car to be a stocker, you should be able to have purchased the car off the show room floor at the dealer and drive it home. Period End. If the "powers- to- be", along with the manufactures, feel the need to continue this BS, then, the PURPOSE BUILT CARS should have their own class. This needs to be addressed RIGHT NOW !! Or when the Drag Pac Challenger filters down into the lower classes you'll hear whinning like you've never thought possible.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:33 PM   #2
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In regards to us being unsportsmanlike I would like to comment on that. When the semifinals of class came around the two chevy competitors came up to us and told us (Brent and I) were going to run each other and they ( Mr Belden and the other competitor) were going to run each other. So if anyone was dictating who was going to run who it was them not us. I responded by saying that didnt seem right and suggested using a ladder, drawing numbers, or flipping coins. Nobody objected so we drew numbers. I drew a 2, Brent drew a 1 so therefore I ran a Chevy and so did Brent. We did not bully anyone into racing us it was total luck of the draw we could of run each other just as easily. Also I recall in a previous post before Indy that there was no accepted method for pairing cars in class it is however the competitors in that class that decide how to do it and i've noticed that even these methods change from round to round. So if there is a common practice please let us know so that we dont make a mistake again.

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Old 11-05-2009, 02:56 PM   #3
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I think the new iron in town is great. I love the LS-1 F-body Camaros and Firebirds, the late model LS-2 GTO's, the Zo6 Corvettes, The Drag-Pak Challengers, AND these new rocket CJ's from Ford.....awesome engineering, technology and craftsmanship...I say welcome to the new world of drag racing. Surely it's about time the 40-50 yr. old stuff had some company out there anyway. Make some intelligent necessary changes to classes, and let everyone have a go at it.....otherwise, this sport will be dead and gone alot sooner than we all think....and they'll be jamming more of those those fart-can jamboree cars down our throats, maybe even powering them with acorns and pine cones.....again, my 2 cents... WJ
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:50 PM   #4
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and they'll be jamming more of those those fart-can jamboree cars down our throats, maybe even powering them with acorns and pine cones.....again, my 2 cents... WJ

You had me up until this point. Your thinking in the earlier part of your post applies to those "fart-can jamboree cars" as well. We all love well built race cars. Forced induction, n/a, fwd, rwd, awd, 4 cyl, 8cyl should not matter. Thinking any differently about "fart-can jamboree cars" is as senseless as racism.

I agree with you however on one part. Intelligent decisions on how to class these diverse crowd of cars would go a long way. Until then, I will race in whatever class I fit the rules for.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:46 PM   #5
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Mr. Holzman,

Your statement is a joke...right……

Just like Mopar getting Ford power for the Drag Pack Challengers (that’s what Tommy Gaynor said)

Please be very careful because there is a village out there that is missing their idiot if you expect anybody to believe that..... 1 pairs with the number 2 are you kidding....that’s why it is called pairing up...you know 1 races 1, and 2 races 2

I was born at night MR. HOLTZMAN, but it wasn't last night.

It's too late to rewrite history with your spin doctoring

Your lack up "SPORTMANSHIP" continues to shine through....
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:31 AM   #6
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Bob: Reread his post I think he said he had a 2 and the other CJ driver had a 1, if that is correct then they did it right, but from what i have heard it was the other way!, and Larry Beldon is a very nice guy and i would beleave what he has to say, plus he has experiance when it come's to racing faster cars than him and he has beaten some of the best with his slower car.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:39 PM   #7
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Since the only somewhat local NHRA National event for me is Seattle, which never has class eliminations, I am curious as to the "pairing up" of multiple cars in the same class during class eliminations. Pretty obvious for only 1 or 2 cars in a given class, but what if there is more? Is it random pairing, do the racers flip a coin, or does NHRA set up the pairings? On an uneven number, how is the bye run recipient determined? A large class, like SS/AH at Indy must be quite an ordeal to set up who runs who for somebody.
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Mr. Holzman,

Your statement is a joke...right……

Just like Mopar getting Ford power for the Drag Pack Challengers (that’s what Tommy Gaynor said)

Please be very careful because there is a village out there that is missing their idiot if you expect anybody to believe that..... 1 pairs with the number 2 are you kidding....that’s why it is called pairing up...you know 1 races 1, and 2 races 2

I was born at night MR. HOLTZMAN, but it wasn't last night.

It's too late to rewrite history with your spin doctoring

Your lack up "SPORTMANSHIP" continues to shine through....
WOW,please explain this again!
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:01 PM   #9
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In regards to us being unsportsmanlike I would like to comment on that. When the semifinals of class came around the two chevy competitors came up to us and told us (Brent and I) were going to run each other and they ( Mr Belden and the other competitor) were going to run each other. So if anyone was dictating who was going to run who it was them not us. I responded by saying that didnt seem right and suggested using a ladder, drawing numbers, or flipping coins. Nobody objected so we drew numbers. I drew a 2, Brent drew a 1 so therefore I ran a Chevy and so did Brent. We did not bully anyone into racing us it was total luck of the draw we could of run each other just as easily. Also I recall in a previous post before Indy that there was no accepted method for pairing cars in class it is however the competitors in that class that decide how to do it and i've noticed that even these methods change from round to round. So if there is a common practice please let us know so that we dont make a mistake again.

My 2 cents worth

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Wow this post was at 12:50 PM and it's 4:50 and no one is going to comment?He seems to have spelled it out in black and white for all to see.
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