Original hemi dart information

[mike koester 66 nova]

Mark J, did you ever do any more research on the two red DeFrank and
Cohen cudas? One was red and yellow and sold to Lydon and Johnson in Penn. and the other all red car was sold to Don MacCallum. What do you think the history was on each car. Also I understand that Dell and you have allmost finished documenting most of these cars. Are you going to publish this information or going to try making it available to others trying to study the sport. Any help would be appreciated. Have many cars with
their first owners. These cars sure did change hands over the years. I told Dell I would try and send him more pictures.

[68hemiss]

Paul, I got your pictures, I am getting some ready to send to you. Looks like you have been doing some digging! I tried a few people but no luck on the Pomona Speed shop yet.
Mark J

[Paul Ceasrine]

Mark,
As you can see in the Dart photo. The rear quarter-panels are near perfect. Replaced stock units. I'm sure in 1980 or 1981, the original
Hurst-modified units must have been dinged up pretty bad. Most guys just replaced the quarter-panels with stock units, and then had the
rear-ends narrowed for the cleaner look? Also, I said earlier, the
trunk-lid had a steel unit on, with the trim-panel. Unfortunately, thats all I have on the black Dart.
As for the Pomona car, not too much info passing on this post. It appears that the original car went through Charles Singer Dodge in
Kearney, New Jersey and/or Cy Greene Dodge in Manhassett, L.I., NY.
I think the original purchaser came out of Corona (Queens), NY. Not too far from Manhassett.
Jim B, mentioned that the Dart out of Cy Greene Dodge was a 4-speed,
but as you know, that doesn't help much, as many racers immediately switched to automatics.
PC

[Paul Ceasrine]

Mark J,
Following up on the Pomona, NY Dart. As I said earlier, it was at Dover in late 75'. Painted dark gray, with Pomona Speed Parts lettered on
the front fender (I think). It ran in brackets (no S/S there). Maybe a 11.70 or so, the car was worn-out-a-bit. The owner of the Dart wanted to trade me his car for the 440 Cuda' (photo I sent you). You see why I didn't do it.
Then it disappeared, and Dover closed in May 76'.
4 years later, I'm selling automotive engine rebuilding equipment, and
I end up in Pomona. The owner (Vic) in a 2-bay garage with a small parts store in his office wants to buy tooling for his Winona valve guide/seat machine. One thing leads to another, and there it was, on the side of his garage, the Hemi Dart. Not for Sale, and sitting for almost 4 years, (only occasionally street-raced in Nyack, NY and North Jersey)
machine.

[Bucky Hess]

68hemiss Do you have any pictures of Tom Myl cuda Dell sent me 2 Thanks Bucky

[Bob Rice]

Bucky,
Email me at bobrice@embarqmail.com. I have a few.
Bob Rice

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Mark J,
Following up on the Pomona, NY Dart. As I said earlier, it was at Dover in late 75'. Painted dark gray, with Pomona Speed Parts lettered on
the front fender (I think). It ran in brackets (no S/S there). Maybe a 11.70 or so, the car was worn-out-a-bit. The owner of the Dart wanted to trade me his car for the 440 Cuda' (photo I sent you). You see why I didn't do it.
Then it disappeared, and Dover closed in May 76'.
4 years later, I'm selling automotive engine rebuilding equipment, and
I end up in Pomona. The owner (Vic) in a 2-bay garage with a small parts store in his office wants to buy tooling for his Winona valve guide/seat machine. One thing leads to another, and there it was, on the side of his garage, the Hemi Dart. Not for Sale, and sitting for almost 4 years, (only occasionally street-raced in Nyack, NY and North Jersey)
machine.

Paul
Do you have any more info that you can share with me about Vic??. Maybe a last name,phone number or last known location??? You can PM me if you wish. This looks like a promising trail to follow for sure.
Haven't recieved your pix yet that you sent me in the mail yet,but it usually takes awhile to get stuff up here to Canada. I'll let you know

Liteweight
Daryl

[Paul Ceasrine]

Daryl,
I had to fill out a custom's document to send out youur photo's. I mailed it the same time I sent the photo's to Mark J. He got his, you should have your envelope any day. Can't remember Vic's last name, but I do remember where his shop was. When I go back up to New York in 3 weeks, I just might take a drive-by. I'm as curious as you are, on this car.
My best guess, is that unfortunately, it probably got picked apart. As I said earlier, drag racing was pretty much dead in our area in the late 70's and early 80's.
Jack Arnew, the New York town was Hempstead, Long Island. That Dart may have been the Mutt Brothers famous New York street-racer. The original S & K Speed Shop (dark red, 4-speed car out of West Babylon, Long Island), that they sold in late 68'. Does that sound correct...(Mark J)
OH, Jack, one more thing. Found a photo of Sox & Martin at US30, York, Pa in the summer of 69'. The Cuda had a small design on the front-grille, within the center-stripe. Same as your car. The Cuda you got must have been the second car, or How many did they have????
Paul

[68hemiss]

Paul/Jack, the car was the ex-Mutt Bros (S-K Speed Dart) - I do have paperwork and VIN # for the car but it hasn't surfaced. Jack, I was talking to a guy out west who told me that he bought a Dart back east (must have been late 70's -early 80's). He had forgotten where exactly but he said that it had some strange front bars (firewall forward) - any chance this could have been your old Dart?

Paul, I am sending you some photos of the various S&M Barracudas that we spoke about - just trying to get the time to find all of them (many on disc) and get them printed. I think you will like them.

Bob R - I will also get the Livingston photos scanned larger for you - I haven't forgotten.

Mark J

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Mark J,
Following up on the Pomona, NY Dart. As I said earlier, it was at Dover in late 75'. Painted dark gray, with Pomona Speed Parts lettered on
the front fender (I think). It ran in brackets (no S/S there). Maybe a 11.70 or so, the car was worn-out-a-bit. The owner of the Dart wanted to trade me his car for the 440 Cuda' (photo I sent you). You see why I didn't do it.
Then it disappeared, and Dover closed in May 76'.
4 years later, I'm selling automotive engine rebuilding equipment, and
I end up in Pomona. The owner (Vic) in a 2-bay garage with a small parts store in his office wants to buy tooling for his Winona valve guide/seat machine. One thing leads to another, and there it was, on the side of his garage, the Hemi Dart. Not for Sale, and sitting for almost 4 years, (only occasionally street-raced in Nyack, NY and North Jersey)
machine.

Paul & Mark
My car was still being campaigned as a bracket car in the North East corner in 1977, as shown by the decal on the quarter window. I know you guys have seen this pix before,but I'm hoping someone else might come to the table