Titles and Race Cars

[greg fulk]

the factory Olds car have NO VIN! so none of them have a title! Do the East Taxas cars come with a title?

Check your PM's Greg.

Originally Posted by greg fulk

the factory Olds car have NO VIN! so none of them have a title! Do the East Taxas cars come with a title?

[scott justo]

i didnt have any problem getting my dp challenger into canada only because i had all paper work.i dont think it would have gone good with out it.they were more interested in if i had any guns.i have been crossing the border for years with no problems,but i take titles to truck,trailor and car.after reading these posts ill keep the paper work for the challenger in the trailor no matter where i go.thanks for the heads up.

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by greg fulk

the factory Olds car have NO VIN! so none of them have a title! Do the East Taxas cars come with a title?

I was wondering the same thing. I bought my Olds from Tom Kasch. It was a factory race car, I believe never titled. I still have the bill of sale from Tom, so should I carry it with me? If I were to get stopped, will they ask to see it and will it be "good enough"?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I was wondering the same thing. I bought my Olds from Tom Kasch. It was a factory race car, I believe never titled. I still have the bill of sale from Tom, so should I carry it with me? If I were to get stopped, will they ask to see it and will it be "good enough"?

Mike,run it past your DMV and see if you can title it with the paperwork you have.If so,
end of problem.

[Pelle A]

About 10 years ago, a -68 street Corvette on its way to be exported to Sweden was stopped by the US authorities in the harbour. They discovered that it was stolen from the first owner -71, 28 years before.
There had been serveral owners during the years, all acting in good faith, also the last seller.
Original owner got his car back (surprise!), and the Swede that was eagerly anticipating his new car got no refund from the seller, he got ...nothing...
So there's a good function of this system, even though the instrument is a bit blunt....

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Mike,run it past your DMV and see if you can title it with the paperwork you have.If so,
end of problem.

How do you title a vehicle without a VIN?

[Michael Compton]

My car did not have a title when I got it. All I had was a bill of sale. I had a buddy who was a lawyer get a court ordered title. I then took all of the paperwork to the state highway patrol who searched the car to try and find some sort of vin or identification number. Since they could not find anything (I told them they were wasting their time) they signed off on the paperwork and sent me on my way. I had to go back about 3 weeks later for them to pop rivet on a vin # assigned by the state. Then I registered it with the DMV as an off road/race car and only pay minimal personal property taxes every year. No tags, licenses or anything.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Obviously every state is different, here in Ohio, its not to difficult to get a title for a race car assuming you have proper documentation, as in a body in white car or something strip only, I have a friend that got a title to a dragster here in Ohio...why because he could, and he was taking another car down for inspection. They dont inspect to see that you are "street legal" rather that you have MSO's (manufacturers stated origin docs or something like it) and/or reciepts (in Ohio they must be notarized for main components, engine etc if they are from a personal source)

We joke you can get a title for anything here "IF" you know how and where to play the right game.

We used to and I was thinking of doing it again, getting a whole bunch of "Grey Market" 2 stroke street bikes from Japan brought over as I can get them titled here, a bike I pay 1200 for used over there brings upwards of 5k titled here.

The trick is also to do it somewhere rural (in my experience) as people dont like to show they dont know what the hell they are looking at or doing., and there it has always seemed painless. The HWP in the bigger areas seems to be all punchy like youre trying to pull a fast one...the whole, Im a statie, but I am going to act like Im inspector clousea.

When the Challenger DP is all together we plan to get a title for it. Why ? Because we can

The DMV in Ohio has everything required on their website, its a strange list, many big ticket items, engine etc, but there are strange things they require paperwork for.

If youre SURE its Kosher, like a Bike I just got my stepdad bought new and lost the title to some 40 years ago in P.A. , he only rode the bike 70 miles and fell over on it , never rode again, Its a no brainer as I am 100% sure its legit. but as others have said , if its "iffy" well youve got to be ready to take a total loss if something comes up as "stolen" and is on their list they take the whole shabang.

Then again you can always buy a title and a vin plate.....thats the easiest route, I have a source here in Ohio they used to own a wrecking yard Kept all the titles and tags from cars. This may or may not be legal depending on where you live. But for $200 or so hey.....its easy .....

Originally Posted by Michael Compton

My car did not have a title when I got it. All I had was a bill of sale. I had a buddy who was a lawyer get a court ordered title. I then took all of the paperwork to the state highway patrol who searched the car to try and find some sort of vin or identification number. Since they could not find anything (I told them they were wasting their time) they signed off on the paperwork and sent me on my way. I had to go back about 3 weeks later for them to pop rivet on a vin # assigned by the state. Then I registered it with the DMV as an off road/race car and only pay minimal personal property taxes every year. No tags, licenses or anything.

[Bob Verwold]

Originally Posted by drooze

Then again you can always buy a title and a vin plate.....thats the easiest route, I have a source here in Ohio they used to own a wrecking yard Kept all the titles and tags from cars. This may or may not be legal depending on where you live. But for $200 or so hey.....its easy .....

Don't know what part of Ohio you live in, but where I live that's just about the fastest way I know of to end up in JAIL........