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Old 12-04-2009, 05:26 PM   #1
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I don't think going to a Pro Tree is going to help one's R/T. In actuallity, it will hinder it, especially a 4 tenths Pro Tree. If you want to allow deep staging with this new setup, then please tell me why it cannot be allowed with the current, full tree setup? The goal in each is to allow the chance for the slow car to have a better light. Also, if a Pro Tree is used, and there is a spot of any significance, the faster car is going to be at a disadvantage. Try it at a Test N Tune session if you don't believe me. The rules are fine how they are.

I think consistently practicing is the only viable option to make one's self better. Of course change is never a bad thing, but if it isn't beneficial to ALL competitor's, it isn't good at all. I get the idea of making a level playing field and I believe the current system is the best way.

Oh, and before anyone suggest's an "instant green" tree, let me just say this would never ever work! I guarantee you the fastest (ie. E/T and MPH, not according to index) car would win every time if they just considered the math and can cover someone at the stripe within a wheatfield...

Just my .02 cents.

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Old 12-04-2009, 07:03 PM   #2
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Any slow car that deep stages also loses rollout and some free ET to be #1 qualifier.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:49 PM   #3
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I don't think going to a Pro Tree is going to help one's R/T. In actuallity, it will hinder it, especially a 4 tenths Pro Tree. If you want to allow deep staging with this new setup, then please tell me why it cannot be allowed with the current, full tree setup? The goal in each is to allow the chance for the slow car to have a better light. Also, if a Pro Tree is used, and there is a spot of any significance, the faster car is going to be at a disadvantage. Try it at a Test N Tune session if you don't believe me. The rules are fine how they are.

I think consistently practicing is the only viable option to make one's self better. Of course change is never a bad thing, but if it isn't beneficial to ALL competitor's, it isn't good at all. I get the idea of making a level playing field and I believe the current system is the best way.

Oh, and before anyone suggest's an "instant green" tree, let me just say this would never ever work! I guarantee you the fastest (ie. E/T and MPH, not according to index) car would win every time if they just considered the math and can cover someone at the stripe within a wheatfield...

Just my .02 cents.

Manny Sousa
Manny, I agree with leaving things alone as they are. But, I have to differ on the last part, about fast cars winning on an Instant Green. 2001 (I think that was the year) there was an Instant Green race at the Division 1 race at Maple Grove. One for Stock, one for Super Stock. Sal Biondo in Andy Boltz's GT/IA won, running mid to high 10's, against much slower cars. Of course, Sal is better than most of us. But it can be done with a slower car. I forget who won Stock, but I think it was Dave Lebrun (C/SA) and Bob Broadbent (F/S) in the final...I could be wrong about those two.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:43 PM   #4
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when are you guys going to learn when Don says something, just let it go, you are arguing with a buzz saw, he is my buddy but I will not debate him in anything cause its like talking to a lawyer, lol.
After a while i feel like Rocky and say "Cut me Mick"

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Old 12-04-2009, 09:52 PM   #5
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pro tree vote here
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:02 PM   #6
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Mike Carr, you have a PM.


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Old 12-05-2009, 09:41 AM   #8
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Then why are you asking for a change, or at least proposing it? No one just want to make such a major change "because." You must have some logical reasoning for proposing the move to make S/SS pro-tree classes.

I'm not knocking you for offering the opinion, but I would like to know your reasoning.

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