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Old 12-09-2009, 10:36 PM   #1
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There are two issues that are getting confused.
1. USDOT motor carrier. If you operate your racing activities as a business, by deducting expenses from your taxes, and travel through more than one state, then you are operating in interstate commerce. If your vehicle combination is 10,001 lbs or more then you are a motor carrier and require a DOT number. If you transport your own equipment that you use for your business (racing) then you are a private motor carrier. If someone pays you to transport their equipment then you would be a "For Hire" motor carrier.
2. CDL. You can drive a 26,000 lb tow vehicle and a 10,000 lb trailer for a GCVW of 35,000 without having a CDL. If the trailer hits 10,001 or the tow rig hits 26,001 you have to have a CDL

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Old 12-09-2009, 10:59 PM   #2
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There are two issues that are getting confused.
1. USDOT motor carrier. If you operate your racing activities as a business, by deducting expenses from your taxes, and travel through more than one state, then you are operating in interstate commerce. If your vehicle combination is 10,001 lbs or more then you are a motor carrier and require a DOT number. If you transport your own equipment that you use for your business (racing) then you are a private motor carrier. If someone pays you to transport their equipment then you would be a "For Hire" motor carrier.
2. CDL. You can drive a 26,000 lb tow vehicle and a 10,000 lb trailer for a GCVW of 35,000 without having a CDL. If the trailer hits 10,001 or the tow rig hits 26,001 you have to have a CDL

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OK,so if someone has a 4500 series dually and a 42' L/Q trailer what class CDL is required?
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ED, a CDL covers everything, for a commercial operation except the Hazardous Materials endorsement, which is a total other issue when you carry fuel of a certain amount.

For a non commercial operation a non commercial Class A covers the dually and trailer. I am sure a 4500 dually and a 42 ft trailer goes over the 26,001 combined weight.
I have the Class B for my motor home and trailer less than 10,001 lbs GVW.

It really is confusing for people and what makes it worse is there are as many ideas on what the rules mean as there are police officers to try and enforce them.

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Old 12-09-2009, 11:29 PM   #4
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ED, a CDL covers everything, for a commercial operation except the Hazardous Materials endorsement, which is a total other issue when you carry fuel of a certain amount.

For a non commercial operation a non commercial Class A covers the dually and trailer. I am sure a 4500 dually and a 42 ft trailer goes over the 26,001 combined weight.
I have the Class B for my motor home and trailer less than 10,001 lbs GVW.

It really is confusing for people and what makes it worse is there are as many ideas on what the rules mean as there are police officers to try and enforce them.

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Thank you.I'm just running senarios through my head.I currently am a CDL B w/air.
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